Question for the Engineers/ Architects.
Discussion
Having recently returned from a soggy Santa Pod the oft asked questiono was raised in the bar: "why don't they put a roof on the place?"
So- why don't they? I'd imagine because the cost would be horrific, but if such an item was built in a modular fashion then it would be feasible, in my opinion. What we're talking about here is an opne barn, effectively. A roof but no sides. It would need to be about 150 feet wide, at least 50 feet high (dragtsers are very long and occasionally flip/fly) & 3/4 mile long. the strip itself is 1/4 mile, but the shutdown area would need to be dry too, for those who don't use parachutes.
So, is it feasible? What would it cost?
So- why don't they? I'd imagine because the cost would be horrific, but if such an item was built in a modular fashion then it would be feasible, in my opinion. What we're talking about here is an opne barn, effectively. A roof but no sides. It would need to be about 150 feet wide, at least 50 feet high (dragtsers are very long and occasionally flip/fly) & 3/4 mile long. the strip itself is 1/4 mile, but the shutdown area would need to be dry too, for those who don't use parachutes.
So, is it feasible? What would it cost?
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
BB-Q said:
Having recently returned from a soggy Santa Pod the oft asked questiono was raised in the bar: "why don't they put a roof on the place?"
So- why don't they? I'd imagine because the cost would be horrific, but if such an item was built in a modular fashion then it would be feasible, in my opinion. What we're talking about here is an opne barn, effectively. A roof but no sides. It would need to be about 150 feet wide, at least 50 feet high (dragtsers are very long and occasionally flip/fly) & 3/4 mile long. the strip itself is 1/4 mile, but the shutdown area would need to be dry too, for those who don't use parachutes.
So, is it feasible? What would it cost?
To give you an idea, the building next door to us - biggest specualtively built warehouse in the UK at the moment is about twice the width you'd need (although you'd need some overhang to stop driving rain from blowing onto the track) and about half the length of a drag strip. The whole thing is 670k sq. ft and will sell for around £60m. So- why don't they? I'd imagine because the cost would be horrific, but if such an item was built in a modular fashion then it would be feasible, in my opinion. What we're talking about here is an opne barn, effectively. A roof but no sides. It would need to be about 150 feet wide, at least 50 feet high (dragtsers are very long and occasionally flip/fly) & 3/4 mile long. the strip itself is 1/4 mile, but the shutdown area would need to be dry too, for those who don't use parachutes.
So, is it feasible? What would it cost?
If you bases 'just a roof' on about £70 per sq. ft, I think you'd not be far wrong - go cost.
Edited by Digga on Friday 12th September 13:30
Edited by Digga on Friday 12th September 13:31
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
(yes I laugh at my own jokes)Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
captainzep said:
It would definitely cost £27.34 ex vat. No question.
Possibly more for the see-through guttering.
What is Santa-Pod?
seriously? The place to go in the UK to see the fastest motorsport on earth. 8000hp, 5g acceleration, 0-300mph in 440 yards (0-250 in half of that)in under 5 seconds, engines that register 4 on the Richter scale sound appealing at all?Possibly more for the see-through guttering.
What is Santa-Pod?
Santa Pod
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
BB-Q said:
Olf said:
Two major problems with this. Fire (check out some of the fireballs when it all goes wrong) and cars would emerge from the shelter and therefore a dry track onto a damp/slippy track and pear shapes would follow.
no they wouldn't- not if the shutdown area was covered too. ............as I stated in my original post.
No im not being serious
the real answer is that the H&S brigade wouldn't allow it.
i used to go to see the tractor pulling sometimes as a kid. the sight and sound of a twin merlin-engined tractor chugging up the dirt was great fun, but was always in a muddy field against the backdrop of the typical english weather.
on eurosport it was a different matter. the septics were doing it in comfy indoor arena's, not giving a fig about the h&s 'risk' as they had designed to fire & ventilation systems to cope.
has anyone seen the bercy stadium in paris? superb place, can be flooded to allow sailing & windsurfing, grassed over for horse riding and tennis, and is also used for the karting masters and indoor supercross.
would we be allowed one in the uk? would we f
k.
another factor would be that we can't even build a simple footy stadium for less than £750m. 1 wembley = 3 allianz stadiums = 4 beijin national stadiums.
i used to go to see the tractor pulling sometimes as a kid. the sight and sound of a twin merlin-engined tractor chugging up the dirt was great fun, but was always in a muddy field against the backdrop of the typical english weather.
on eurosport it was a different matter. the septics were doing it in comfy indoor arena's, not giving a fig about the h&s 'risk' as they had designed to fire & ventilation systems to cope.
has anyone seen the bercy stadium in paris? superb place, can be flooded to allow sailing & windsurfing, grassed over for horse riding and tennis, and is also used for the karting masters and indoor supercross.
would we be allowed one in the uk? would we f
k. another factor would be that we can't even build a simple footy stadium for less than £750m. 1 wembley = 3 allianz stadiums = 4 beijin national stadiums.
Ok, understood. I agree there could be H&S problems too. But I'm not talking about enclosing the drag strip in a building or stadium, I'm suggesting putting a shelter over the top of it. There would be totally unrestricted access at the ends and sides. Surely that would make a difference to the H&S bods? Think of it as a 3/4 mile bus shelter!
Or is there another possibility?
Or is there another possibility?
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