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thehawk

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9,335 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Once again, it seems the experts have all appeared out of the woodwork, shorting this, buying that, asking opinions about what the best software/trading platform is. Colleagues at work all rushing to open trading accounts etc.

Why is it that everyone suddenly tries to become a player when the markets hit such tumultuous times?



Simpo Two

92,955 posts

295 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Because they can't do any worse than the 'professionals' who fked it up to start with?

Andrew[MG]

3,359 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Because they can't do any worse than the 'professionals' who fked it up to start with?
sounds about right!

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Because you make money buying low and selling high. Lots are things are relativley low at the moment.

chris_w666

22,655 posts

229 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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I find the whole thing interesting and I wouldn't dream of doing anything other than virtual trading. Its easier to find stuff out when people that know are talking about something IMO.

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Because it's very easy to make money in this atmosphere.


2something

2,145 posts

238 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Lots of people are taking the view that now isn't the worst time to buy shares. It's better to be thinking about buying now, than when the dot com boom was happening right ?

Well it doesn't really matter, if you're going to buy shares here, you have to be disciplined enough to buy in small amounts and be very patient.

So regardless of whether now is or isn't a good time to buy, most people are likely to lose money eventually from a lack of discipline and patience.

thehawk

Original Poster:

9,335 posts

237 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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I just find it amusing every time a crisis happens, I remember loads of people on various forums boasting about buying Northern Rock at a low price. It then dropped like a lead weight the next day IIRC.

I just think that it's probably not the best time for people who don't know what they are really doing to be getting involved, still, I suppose it is their own money to do what they want with.

HundredthIdiot

4,477 posts

314 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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The normal strategy of "hold for the long term" comes under pressure in a falling market. Psychologically, no-one wants to be sitting on the deck of the Titanic watching the iceberg approach - better to be rearranging deckchairs.

I remember the rash of amateur day trading around the dot com boom, and that didn't end well.

Seems like high-stakes musical chairs to me. Best done virtually, not with your hard-earned.

BlueEyedBoy

1,954 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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thehawk said:
I just find it amusing every time a crisis happens, I remember loads of people on various forums boasting about buying Northern Rock at a low price. It then dropped like a lead weight the next day IIRC.

I just think that it's probably not the best time for people who don't know what they are really doing to be getting involved, still, I suppose it is their own money to do what they want with.
You could have made about 30% on HBOS today. I guess thats why. The trouble is, like you say, most of them just allow the traders to make some cash.

shadowninja

80,135 posts

312 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Simpo Two said:
Because they can't do any worse than the 'professionals' who fked it up to start with?
hehe

shadowninja

80,135 posts

312 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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thehawk said:
I just find it amusing every time a crisis happens, I remember loads of people on various forums boasting about buying Northern Rock at a low price. It then dropped like a lead weight the next day IIRC.
Yep. Was about to post this.

shadowninja

80,135 posts

312 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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plasticpig said:
Because you make money buying low and selling high. Lots are things are relativley low at the moment.
Prefer to buy high and sell higher, meself.

Fittster

20,120 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Buy shares in a spreadbetting firm. I should imagine they will be doing a roaring trade.

walm

10,644 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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shadowninja said:
plasticpig said:
Because you make money buying low and selling high. Lots are things are relativley low at the moment.
Prefer to buy high and sell higher, meself.
+1
Flight to quality. Back the truck up.

Orangecurry

7,792 posts

236 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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but regardless of any particular posters level of smugness, now is a good time to buy... say a FTSE 100 ISA

Boris.

440 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Usually a good sign of the high /lows of the market when retail investors start to get involved.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

255 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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shadowninja said:
plasticpig said:
Because you make money buying low and selling high. Lots are things are relativley low at the moment.
Prefer to buy high and sell higher, meself.
Well I dont think thats how the people queuing up to get online trading accounts think. Saying that apart from the occasional flutter on some of the biotechs and other oddities on AIM I steer clear of shares.

shadowninja

80,135 posts

312 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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plasticpig said:
shadowninja said:
plasticpig said:
Because you make money buying low and selling high. Lots are things are relativley low at the moment.
Prefer to buy high and sell higher, meself.
Well I dont think thats how the people queuing up to get online trading accounts think.
Yep!

Jasandjules

72,632 posts

259 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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thehawk said:
Once again, it seems the experts have all appeared out of the woodwork, shorting this, buying that, asking opinions about what the best software/trading platform is. Colleagues at work all rushing to open trading accounts etc.

Why is it that everyone suddenly tries to become a player when the markets hit such tumultuous times?
Because once the market drops, it tends to go back up a bit. SO chances are you can randomly select something, it may go up, you'll make a little cash.