Any one know anything...
Any one know anything...
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Celt

Original Poster:

1,264 posts

222 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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...about 6 sigma?

tuffer

9,012 posts

297 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Yes thanks.

smutbag

1,705 posts

220 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Don't do it...you'll spend more time setting it up understanding it than any savings you'll make...

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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No.

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Of course - don't you need a funny handshake first?

I'm a member of that cult - aren't you yet?

I've never heard of it smile

tim2100

6,288 posts

287 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Set up by motorola, and they say has brought in mega cost saving. But if they had got the process right in the first place then would have saved all that cash anyway.

Black Belt six sigmas think they are gods and somehow demand good money.

Waste of time.

thegman

1,928 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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i'm 99.9997% sure it has something to do with graphs

V8mate

45,899 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Unless you are a large organisation with a complex process to create your product/service it's not worth the cost of instigating.

(Assuming you want to improve a process but don't have the internal resource to do so) you're better off with a terrier-like management consultant (like me smile ) who will keep on asking questions, (I'm very good at "yeah, but why?") until the root cause of any issue has been discovered. Will have the same effect as 6 Sigma.

Big Rod

6,265 posts

246 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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tim2100 said:
Black Belt six sigmas think they are gods and somehow demand good money.

Waste of time.
Yup! That's my experience anyway. And they drop their 'qualification' into conversation at every available opportunity. *yawn*

Reidy10_0

1,123 posts

234 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Big Rod said:
tim2100 said:
Black Belt six sigmas think they are gods and somehow demand good money.

Waste of time.
Yup! That's my experience anyway. And they drop their 'qualification' into conversation at every available opportunity. *yawn*
Black belts in bull st more like it!

N1CK

5,588 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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i dont know anything

tim2100

6,288 posts

287 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Big Rod said:
tim2100 said:
Black Belt six sigmas think they are gods and somehow demand good money.

Waste of time.
Yup! That's my experience anyway. And they drop their 'qualification' into conversation at every available opportunity. *yawn*
And every time you are working with them they remind everybody every paragraph they are working on a Black belt Project.

At motorola they made everybody do white & yellow badges (lowest Levels) and yet they still can't get it right.

TedMaul

2,092 posts

243 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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V8mate said:
Unless you are a large organisation with a complex process to create your product/service it's not worth the cost of instigating.

(Assuming you want to improve a process but don't have the internal resource to do so) you're better off with a terrier-like management consultant (like me smile ) who will keep on asking questions, (I'm very good at "yeah, but why?") until the root cause of any issue has been discovered. Will have the same effect as 6 Sigma.
Quite. Someone with a black-belt in ju-jitsu would be better than six-sigma black belt. Actually, you'd be better off hiring Dr Raoul M Fury with his black belt in ju-ju....

Rofly Lollers

759 posts

225 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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I have a certificate and a few books on the subject, but I won't blow the dust off them for anyone smile

It works well for some applications, but for others it's not so good. For example, if you manufacture millions of widgets but only have a 90% yield, you could improve that by improving the process looking for defects. If you hand-assembly a part you could reduce assembly time just by examining the motion of the person(s) doing the work (by using pedometers for example).

Some six sigma projects on our company have been scraping the bottom of the barrel though - trying to reduce the cost of a mature product by chosing newer cheaper parts is not what six sigma should be used for!


ofcorsa

3,546 posts

273 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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TedMaul said:
V8mate said:
Unless you are a large organisation with a complex process to create your product/service it's not worth the cost of instigating.

(Assuming you want to improve a process but don't have the internal resource to do so) you're better off with a terrier-like management consultant (like me smile ) who will keep on asking questions, (I'm very good at "yeah, but why?") until the root cause of any issue has been discovered. Will have the same effect as 6 Sigma.
Quite. Someone with a black-belt in ju-jitsu would be better than six-sigma black belt. Actually, you'd be better off hiring Dr Raoul M Fury with his black belt in ju-ju....
A belt only covers 2 inch of your ass

Luke Pearson

2,262 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Im working as part of a Black Belt Team at the moment, and yes there is alot of graphs, and data analysis.

I find it quite interesting and have definately considered a future in it.

I do agree with it being "Over Hyped" in most conversations though.

Edited by Luke Pearson on Tuesday 16th September 14:00

TIGA84

5,606 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Celt said:
...about 6 sigma?
Wasnt that an early 90's Mitsubishi?

steven182

1,886 posts

231 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Luke Pearson said:
Im working as a homo at the moment, and yes there is alot of graphs, and data analysis.

I find it quite interesting and have definately considered a future in it.

I do agree with it being "Over Hyped" in most conversations though.

Edited by Luke Pearson on Tuesday 16th September 14:00
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wooooody

920 posts

267 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Lean is more suited to most organisations IMO.

Luke Pearson

2,262 posts

282 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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steven182 said:
Luke Pearson said:
Im working as a homo at the moment, and yes there is alot of graphs, and data analysis.

I find it quite interesting and have definately considered a future in it.

I do agree with it being "Over Hyped" in most conversations though.

Edited by Luke Pearson on Tuesday 16th September 14:00
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