Rank the UK's post war PMs.

[Gold]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/75...

Get Bliar and Clown at the bottom

[215cu]

Duely done.

Who's people's top 3?

Mine are:

Thatcher
Churchill
SuperMac.

[cymtriks]

Well the ones responsible for the 70s can go straight to the bottom. (McMillan, Heath, Callaghan)

Eden, Brown and Home next

The great reformers, those who actually gave us an alternative and delivered it, go to the top (MrsT, Atlee)

The rest in the upper middle ground which really shows you what a shocking set we've had.

[s2art]

cymtriks said:

Well the ones responsible for the 70s can go straight to the bottom. (McMillan, Heath, Callaghan)

Eden, Brown and Home next

The great reformers, those who actually gave us an alternative and delivered it, go to the top (MrsT, Atlee)

The rest in the upper middle ground which really shows you what a shocking set we've had.

McMillan in the 70's???

[andy400]

Thatcher, Churchill and Gentleman Jim at the top.

Heath, Blair and the current clown-monkey-arse-face at the bottom.

The rest inbetween - order largely irrelevent.

[s2art]

andy400 said:

Thatcher, Churchill and Gentleman Jim at the top.

Heath, Blair and the current clown-monkey-arse-face at the bottom.

The rest inbetween - order largely irrelevent.

Cant see why Callaghan is any where near the top, he presided over a major clusterfk. Remember the late 70's? Antony Eden must go down near the bottom too for not getting the yanks onside and presiding over the Suez debacle.

[cymtriks]

s2art said:

cymtriks said:

Well the ones responsible for the 70s can go straight to the bottom. (McMillan, Heath, Callaghan)

Eden, Brown and Home next

The great reformers, those who actually gave us an alternative and delivered it, go to the top (MrsT, Atlee)

The rest in the upper middle ground which really shows you what a shocking set we've had.

McMillan in the 70's???

Wrong Harold! I ment Willson. Together with Heath and Callaghan he presided over the most embarrasing decade of the century. Three day week, strike after strike, inflation, and none of them did anything to stop it. Perhaps if they had then the bitter medicine of MrsT might have been a lot more palatable but they left it until there was no choice.

[barne065]

MacMillan, Thatcher and Attlee...but the worst beyond a doubt is Blair, at least Brown, Heath, Tin Can et al tried to do their best in difficult global circumstances whereas Blair!!!! (by the way what was that idiot's "Vision of Britain"???).

[s2art]

I question the Atlee nomination. Vision yes, but spending a fortune on the welfare state, and nationalising everything in sight, just when we needed to recover from the war was bloody stupid. You might ask why Churchill was soon back in power.

[eldar]

Interesting question, really.

I'd go for Attlee 1st, for getting the economy started on recovery after the war plus the NHS.

2nd Thatcher. Tough enough to have a vision and stick to it.

3rd Macmillan, again the economy.

Last? A toss up between Brown and Heath.

[s2art]

eldar said:

Interesting question, really.

I'd go for Attlee 1st, for getting the economy started on recovery after the war plus the NHS.

2nd Thatcher. Tough enough to have a vision and stick to it.

3rd Macmillan, again the economy.

Last? A toss up between Brown and Heath.

I doubt even Churchill would have struggled to get the economy moving, what did Atlee do that was so special? (other than the NHS, which could have been done better; look at the German system for instance). Atlee should be held guilty of presiding over the nationalisation of approx 20% of the UK's industry, something it took Maggie to correct after years of relative decline.
And last? What about Blair?

[jimmyjimjim]

Brown occupies the bottom 3 places in mine, and Blair the next 3 up....

[eldar]

s2art said:

eldar said:

Interesting question, really.

I'd go for Attlee 1st, for getting the economy started on recovery after the war plus the NHS.

2nd Thatcher. Tough enough to have a vision and stick to it.

3rd Macmillan, again the economy.

Last? A toss up between Brown and Heath.

I doubt even Churchill would have struggled to get the economy moving, what did Atlee do that was so special? (other than the NHS, which could have been done better; look at the German system for instance). Atlee should be held guilty of presiding over the nationalisation of approx 20% of the UK's industry, something it took Maggie to correct after years of relative decline.
And last? What about Blair?

Attlee took over a bankrupt country on an unaffordable manifesto. I think the special bit was managing to meet most of the commitments reasonably well without causing civil war in his party or busting the country. Nationalisation on that scale was a mistake in hindsight, perhaps.

Blair. Not great in my view. Yes, he did sort thr labour party. However, he got us into extended, unwinnable wars by untruth, blew the legacy of the boom years on 2 million unnecessary jobs and kept no reserves. A good party manager, but a poor prime minister. Not quite as bad as heath or Brown, though.

[anonymous-user]

1. Thatcher
2. Churchill
3. MacMillan

[eldudereno]

Thatcher at the top!!!! Is 3 million unemployed a good thing then?

Edited by eldudereno on Friday 19th September 22:18

[Muntu]

Positions 11 & 12 are probably more keenly contested.

My vote:

11: Gordon Brown

12: Ted Heath

[welshbikerduck]

eldudereno said:

Thatcher at the top!!!! Is 3 million unemployed a good thing then?

Edited by eldudereno on Friday 19th September 22:18

You don't think 3 million are not unemployed today?

All this lot have done is massage the figures i guess the question you should really ask today is how many people claiming benefits.

[FourWheelDrift]

eldudereno said:

Thatcher at the top!!!! Is 3 million unemployed a good thing then?

Inherited problems from the previous Labour idiots. Took a few years to turn around.

[Muntu]

Did Ted Heath bowl from the pavillion end?

[s2art]

Muntu said:

Positions 11 & 12 are probably more keenly contested.

My vote:

11: Gordon Brown

12: Ted Heath

In the name of all thats holy, Heath was ste but lower than Brown?