Can you connect your guttering to a soil pipe??
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I live in a block of three town houses, me at the end and the down pipe for the entire run of guttering is at the corner of my house.
Water is pooling in the middle and spilling over into the neighbours yard.
options are.
1. Refit everyones guttering so it falls correctly......major PITA
2. Fit a pipe midway and plumb that into the neighbours soil/wast pipe so it drains into the sewer - really easy to do!!
Can you legally do option 2??
Water is pooling in the middle and spilling over into the neighbours yard.
options are.
1. Refit everyones guttering so it falls correctly......major PITA
2. Fit a pipe midway and plumb that into the neighbours soil/wast pipe so it drains into the sewer - really easy to do!!
Can you legally do option 2??
dave_s13 said:
Can you legally do option 2??
As far as I am aware, Timothy Plumsden from the council office won't like it. As long as you don't have supergrass living nextdoor, crack on with it... however, breaking into your soil pipe for guttering to run into means some of it will remain open, no?
Legally, it will probably depend on whether it eventually makes its way in there already (ie is it a combined sewer or not) If it is then you aren't increasing the discharge area into the sewer so therefore should be ok.
If it isnt then you are increasing the flow in the sewer and so the chance of flooding (albeit by a tiny amount) If you contact your local water company they should be able to advise you and you can get sewer plans for about £20 from them.
Of course the chance of someone actually finding out you have done it are slim, but if anyone did ask and you had to work out how much of an increase in discharge there was then as a rule of thumb, you can work out discharge rates by assuming that in a bad storm, you get about 50mm/hr of rainfall.
Multiply that by the area of the roof and then divide it by 3600 and you'll get the peak discharge in l/s.
so (50 x area (in m2))/(60x60)
Also worth noting that there are quite a few building regs applied to stacks etc, so you'll need to comply with them.
If it isnt then you are increasing the flow in the sewer and so the chance of flooding (albeit by a tiny amount) If you contact your local water company they should be able to advise you and you can get sewer plans for about £20 from them.
Of course the chance of someone actually finding out you have done it are slim, but if anyone did ask and you had to work out how much of an increase in discharge there was then as a rule of thumb, you can work out discharge rates by assuming that in a bad storm, you get about 50mm/hr of rainfall.
Multiply that by the area of the roof and then divide it by 3600 and you'll get the peak discharge in l/s.
so (50 x area (in m2))/(60x60)
Also worth noting that there are quite a few building regs applied to stacks etc, so you'll need to comply with them.
Edited by TomE on Wednesday 24th September 09:22
109 Bob said:
I'm not sure either, but I'm guessing no because you couldn't put a pee trap from your gutter. There would be nothing to stop the smells from the soil pipe escaping from the gutter which I don't think you'd want especially on a hot day. Is a soak away not an option?
Don't soil pipes have a "stench" pipe that discharges above the gutter anyway? If so,what difference would connecting the gutter to the sewr make?Chrispy Porker said:
Big Al. said:
IIRC all Gods water SHOULD be returned to the soil i.e. a soakaway.
Not too sure if you are legally supposed to run rain water into a sewer.
Where the hell does it go then ?Not too sure if you are legally supposed to run rain water into a sewer.
My family is in building and I asked this very Q of my father quite recently. The answer is legally no, but this transgression is minor compared with plumbing the soil into the rain water sewer.
I wanted to know why a little rain water isn't bled into the soil sewers, to assist with the movement of all those "movements". Dad thought it was probably a good idea but reckoned the soil sewer coped well enough as it stood.
You will definitely want to implement some smell-prevention. Not sure if a trap is a good idea, or a vent pipe but if you decide to use the vented option, make it very high. [where's the eeeuurrgh smiley?]
I wanted to know why a little rain water isn't bled into the soil sewers, to assist with the movement of all those "movements". Dad thought it was probably a good idea but reckoned the soil sewer coped well enough as it stood.
You will definitely want to implement some smell-prevention. Not sure if a trap is a good idea, or a vent pipe but if you decide to use the vented option, make it very high. [where's the eeeuurrgh smiley?]
Big Al. said:
Chrispy Porker said:
Big Al. said:
IIRC all Gods water SHOULD be returned to the soil i.e. a soakaway.
Not too sure if you are legally supposed to run rain water into a sewer.
Where the hell does it go then ?Not too sure if you are legally supposed to run rain water into a sewer.
You can't legally connect rain water to the sewer, but it was done in older propertys.
Rain water runs into a sokerway;
A sokerway is a large hole dug 5m or more away from the building.
Depending on the soil conditions it is either; Filled with rejects (waste of time in my opinion) or built in honey combe blockwork, or creates are used.
If i were you i would most proberly just re do the gutter.
HTH
Rain water runs into a sokerway;
A sokerway is a large hole dug 5m or more away from the building.
Depending on the soil conditions it is either; Filled with rejects (waste of time in my opinion) or built in honey combe blockwork, or creates are used.
If i were you i would most proberly just re do the gutter.
HTH
Chrispy Porker said:
Where does the rainwater from the road/gutter go?
To a sewer?
A lot of rainwater from my roof runs down my drive into a drain in the gutter at the bottom.
There are different types of waste water. Sewage, grey etc. If you let any illiterate monkey start hacking into the system and it backs up you'll have a bath full of turds.To a sewer?
A lot of rainwater from my roof runs down my drive into a drain in the gutter at the bottom.
Flintstone said:
Chrispy Porker said:
Where does the rainwater from the road/gutter go?
To a sewer?
A lot of rainwater from my roof runs down my drive into a drain in the gutter at the bottom.
There are different types of waste water. Sewage, grey etc. If you let any illiterate monkey start hacking into the system and it backs up you'll have a bath full of turds.To a sewer?
A lot of rainwater from my roof runs down my drive into a drain in the gutter at the bottom.
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