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So we got a puppy a few weeks ago and, by-and-large, she's great.
She's a black lab cross/mongrel thing (I refuse to use the word Labradoodle) and is 11 weeks old on Sunday.
It's worth pointing out that this is the first dog we've ever owned ourselves so we're a bit rusty on the whole training thing. I did the usual thing and went and bought all the books but we're still having problems with toilet training.
She eats 3 times a day and generally has very few accidents in the house. But after her tea (at about 7pm) she never needs a dump. No matter how long I spend outside with her she never craps outside. She gets shut in a bathroom at night and has a couple of puppy pads on the floor. Every morning, there's a turd there! I can quite understand that a dog her age can't hold on to pi$$ all night because her bladder's too small but why won't she sh!t outside in the evening?! She never craps in the house any other time! We've had her nearly 3 weeks now and, apart from the turds in the night, she's only crapped in the house twice.
It's really getting on my t!ts!
Any advice from dog-owning ph'ers?
She's a black lab cross/mongrel thing (I refuse to use the word Labradoodle) and is 11 weeks old on Sunday.
It's worth pointing out that this is the first dog we've ever owned ourselves so we're a bit rusty on the whole training thing. I did the usual thing and went and bought all the books but we're still having problems with toilet training.
She eats 3 times a day and generally has very few accidents in the house. But after her tea (at about 7pm) she never needs a dump. No matter how long I spend outside with her she never craps outside. She gets shut in a bathroom at night and has a couple of puppy pads on the floor. Every morning, there's a turd there! I can quite understand that a dog her age can't hold on to pi$$ all night because her bladder's too small but why won't she sh!t outside in the evening?! She never craps in the house any other time! We've had her nearly 3 weeks now and, apart from the turds in the night, she's only crapped in the house twice.
It's really getting on my t!ts!
Any advice from dog-owning ph'ers?
Just feed twice a day - breakfast 8am, Supper 5pm at the latest. The reason it craps in the bathroom is because you've put pads down, it thinks that's where you want the poo.
Dig a 3' by 3' and 1' deep hole in your garden and fill halfway up with sand. Cut a piece of wood that covers the hole exactly. When you find a turd in the bathroom pick it up and take it out to the sand pit with the dog watching. After a day or two it will learn you want the poo there and will prefer doing it because they would much rather go on soft sand than tiles. The piece of wood is a lid you can drop over the sandpit when you have visitors who don't want to see the prodigious output of your dogs arse!
Dig a 3' by 3' and 1' deep hole in your garden and fill halfway up with sand. Cut a piece of wood that covers the hole exactly. When you find a turd in the bathroom pick it up and take it out to the sand pit with the dog watching. After a day or two it will learn you want the poo there and will prefer doing it because they would much rather go on soft sand than tiles. The piece of wood is a lid you can drop over the sandpit when you have visitors who don't want to see the prodigious output of your dogs arse!

jollygreen said:
Good suggestions about tea-time though, i'll try and get the OH to feed her before I get home from work.
What about all this pet psychology crap about the dog being fed last though? She's not fed last at the moment anyway as we don't have dinner until 8-ish...
no wonder she wants a dump in the middle of the night, must be not good getting fed sooo late and then getting locked away in some room smelling of pooWhat about all this pet psychology crap about the dog being fed last though? She's not fed last at the moment anyway as we don't have dinner until 8-ish...
if you feed the dog first when everyone else is being fed, it hints that the dog is the alpha male, aka the boss, so make sure that when it is fed, the feeder eats something first and then when finished, give the dog the food second, having the dog see the feeder eating first, re-inforces the idea that it is not top dog and ur missus is

as for needing a dump 6 times a day, guess someone is on a very high fibre diet ? only gone once or twice today, but not into big breakfasts and had minimal lunch....
jollygreen said:
What about all this pet psychology crap about the dog being fed last though?
So that the dog knows its place in the pecking order. Have you looked into dog training lessons in your area, might be a good idea. We've only had two dogs, but I found the lessons invaluable, and would certainly take a new dog if we got one.
Have a lab who is only 2 weeks older. He has 3 meals with the last at 8pm. He gets let out frequently and goes out at 1030 for his last trip. Then up at 6 to let him out. Every time he looked to go inside or went inside, shouted no, then picked him up and took him out side then used the magic word, and gave lots of praise. He now goes to the door and whines if he needs to go. We do use a crate rather than give him free roam at the minute and this is supposed to help.
You need to take the puppy out later after the last meal. And exercise it more vigorously. But all of that is besides the point. As others have pointed out, it should be fed just twice, and the last meal should be earlier.
As long as you or the missus don't eat immediately before or after the puppy, it won't associate your meal times with its own and won't have alpha dog confusion.
As long as you or the missus don't eat immediately before or after the puppy, it won't associate your meal times with its own and won't have alpha dog confusion.
We've got a 10 week black lab, she's currently fed 4 times a day (7, 11, 2 & 6) and are not having problems (touch wood).
Agree with other posters - feed her earlier
Forget shutting her in a room, get her a dog crate that you can put in the lounge/kitchen etc. They are ace, both our dogs have had them and the pup is in a safe place that they begin to regard as their den, which they don't like to mess in. They also have the bonus of preventing your rooms being chewed to bits ....
Loads of advice over at Labradorforums.co.uk - including excessive soppyness from Lab owners that are dafter than their dogs.
Agree with other posters - feed her earlier

Forget shutting her in a room, get her a dog crate that you can put in the lounge/kitchen etc. They are ace, both our dogs have had them and the pup is in a safe place that they begin to regard as their den, which they don't like to mess in. They also have the bonus of preventing your rooms being chewed to bits ....
Loads of advice over at Labradorforums.co.uk - including excessive soppyness from Lab owners that are dafter than their dogs.
JohnP said:
We've got a 10 week black lab, she's currently fed 4 times a day (7, 11, 2 & 6) and are not having problems (touch wood).
Agree with other posters - feed her earlier
Forget shutting her in a room, get her a dog crate that you can put in the lounge/kitchen etc. They are ace, both our dogs have had them and the pup is in a safe place that they begin to regard as their den, which they don't like to mess in. They also have the bonus of preventing your rooms being chewed to bits ....
Loads of advice over at Labradorforums.co.uk - including excessive soppyness from Lab owners that are dafter than their dogs.
I was wondering about this crate business but is it too late to start her in one now?Agree with other posters - feed her earlier

Forget shutting her in a room, get her a dog crate that you can put in the lounge/kitchen etc. They are ace, both our dogs have had them and the pup is in a safe place that they begin to regard as their den, which they don't like to mess in. They also have the bonus of preventing your rooms being chewed to bits ....
Loads of advice over at Labradorforums.co.uk - including excessive soppyness from Lab owners that are dafter than their dogs.
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