Sainsbury's urine steamer
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Just got back from the weekly trudge around the supermarket. Tired after a day staring at a monitor and arguing with clients. Half the shelves empty because the non-working under-class have troughed everything in between Jeremy Vine and Trisha. Unload the trolley, go round to start packing and find no plastic bags. Politely point out to the vacuous tart behind the till that something vital is missing (other than what is lacking between her ears). Only to be told that this is now their policy "to shame their customers into having to ask for them".
My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
tholeMon Ami Mate said:
Just got back from the weekly trudge around the supermarket. Tired after a day staring at a monitor and arguing with clients. Half the shelves empty because the non-working under-class have troughed everything in between Jeremy Vine and Trisha. Unload the trolley, go round to start packing and find no plastic bags. Politely point out to the vacuous tart behind the till that something vital is missing (other than what is lacking between her ears). Only to be told that this is now their policy "to shame their customers into having to ask for them".
My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
I've got no shame in asking for carrier bags!My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
Or reverse shopping!
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just got back from the weekly trudge around the supermarket. Tired after a day staring at a monitor and arguing with clients. Half the shelves empty because the non-working under-class have troughed everything in between Jeremy Vine and Trisha. Unload the trolley, go round to start packing and find no plastic bags. Politely point out to the vacuous tart behind the till that something vital is missing (other than what is lacking between her ears). Only to be told that this is now their policy "to shame their customers into having to ask for them".
My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
internet shopping, it costs £5 which is worth less than 1.5 hours of my time in a supermarketMy response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
Quote of the day!
Points I put to Sainsbury's:
1. If they don't provide bags I will bugger off elsewhere
2. I already re-use my carrier bags as bin bags, rather than carrying home a roll of plastic bin bags in a "bag for life"
3. They should deal with their packaging before inconveniencing us
4. Their home delivery service wastes VAST numbers of carrier bags - I have had 1 item per bag on occasions
Their responses:
1. If they don't provide bags I will bugger off elsewhere
2. I already re-use my carrier bags as bin bags, rather than carrying home a roll of plastic bin bags in a "bag for life"
3. They should deal with their packaging before inconveniencing us
4. Their home delivery service wastes VAST numbers of carrier bags - I have had 1 item per bag on occasions
Their responses:
sainsburys said:
Thank you for your email which I read with interest. It is good of you to take the time to let me know your views about removing carrier bags from our checkouts.
We take our commitment to reducing our effects on the environment very seriously. We want to make it easy for all our customers to reduce the number of bags they use. Free carrier bags were introduced in the early 1970s and customers have become used to receiving them.
We recently announced our plans to reduce the number of free plastic bags we give away by 50% by April 2009. To help us to achieve this new target we are working with our customers to reduce, reuse and recycle plastic bags.
From Saturday 14 June 2008, we began rewarding customers who reuse bags at the checkouts by offering one Nectar point for every bag they reuse. We also want to encourage others to change the way they shop. This is why we have made the decision to remove carrier bags from our checkouts. We hope it will remind our customers to bring their old bags shopping with them. I am sorry you are frustrated by this process.
I have spoken to our Environmental Relations Team about your email. They would like to assure you we have no plans to remove carrier bags from our stores.
I understand your point about the amount of packaging we have on our products. I would like to take this opportunity to highlight the improvements we have made in this area.
We are focusing on reducing the amount of packaging we use wherever possible. Indeed, we are confident that we will meet our target of a 5% reduction in packaging relative to turnover by 2010. So far we have achieved a 2.6% reduction. We now use 14% less plastic on our prepared salads than we did in January 2007, which will save 20.8 tonnes of plastic a year. We are also reducing the packaging on our crisps, snacks and nuts by 20%, which will save 85 tonnes of plastic a year. By May 2010, we will have reduced our produce packaging by 25% and 50% will be recyclable or compostable.
We are pleased to say that this year all the packaging on our boxed Easter eggs was recyclable, reusable or home compostable. We reduced the packaging on our Taste the Difference signature dark chocolate eggs by 61%.
We also continue to expand our use of home compostable packaging. In March 2008, we started using home compostable trays for our whole organic chickens. This is a first in the UK.
In May 2008 the Local Government Association carried out a survey of retailer packaging. Sainsbury’s was found to offer the highest proportion of recyclable packaging of all the major retailers.
I understand from your email you are unhappy with the way our online delivery team packs your groceries. We expect our colleagues to carry out their jobs with respect for the environment. This means they should pack the groceries without using an excessive number of carrier bags.
I have passed your comments on to the online groceries team. They will continue to monitor the way customer orders are being packed. If they notice bags are not being filled correctly, they will take steps to make sure the problem is rectified. You may be interested to know our delivery drivers are happy to return carrier bags back to store for recycling.
You can find more information about our position on sustainability and the environment on our corporate website at j-sainsbury.co.uk/cr. You can also use the website to download a copy of our latest corporate responsibility report.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. I hope this information is useful to you.
Kind regards
We take our commitment to reducing our effects on the environment very seriously. We want to make it easy for all our customers to reduce the number of bags they use. Free carrier bags were introduced in the early 1970s and customers have become used to receiving them.
We recently announced our plans to reduce the number of free plastic bags we give away by 50% by April 2009. To help us to achieve this new target we are working with our customers to reduce, reuse and recycle plastic bags.
From Saturday 14 June 2008, we began rewarding customers who reuse bags at the checkouts by offering one Nectar point for every bag they reuse. We also want to encourage others to change the way they shop. This is why we have made the decision to remove carrier bags from our checkouts. We hope it will remind our customers to bring their old bags shopping with them. I am sorry you are frustrated by this process.
I have spoken to our Environmental Relations Team about your email. They would like to assure you we have no plans to remove carrier bags from our stores.
I understand your point about the amount of packaging we have on our products. I would like to take this opportunity to highlight the improvements we have made in this area.
We are focusing on reducing the amount of packaging we use wherever possible. Indeed, we are confident that we will meet our target of a 5% reduction in packaging relative to turnover by 2010. So far we have achieved a 2.6% reduction. We now use 14% less plastic on our prepared salads than we did in January 2007, which will save 20.8 tonnes of plastic a year. We are also reducing the packaging on our crisps, snacks and nuts by 20%, which will save 85 tonnes of plastic a year. By May 2010, we will have reduced our produce packaging by 25% and 50% will be recyclable or compostable.
We are pleased to say that this year all the packaging on our boxed Easter eggs was recyclable, reusable or home compostable. We reduced the packaging on our Taste the Difference signature dark chocolate eggs by 61%.
We also continue to expand our use of home compostable packaging. In March 2008, we started using home compostable trays for our whole organic chickens. This is a first in the UK.
In May 2008 the Local Government Association carried out a survey of retailer packaging. Sainsbury’s was found to offer the highest proportion of recyclable packaging of all the major retailers.
I understand from your email you are unhappy with the way our online delivery team packs your groceries. We expect our colleagues to carry out their jobs with respect for the environment. This means they should pack the groceries without using an excessive number of carrier bags.
I have passed your comments on to the online groceries team. They will continue to monitor the way customer orders are being packed. If they notice bags are not being filled correctly, they will take steps to make sure the problem is rectified. You may be interested to know our delivery drivers are happy to return carrier bags back to store for recycling.
You can find more information about our position on sustainability and the environment on our corporate website at j-sainsbury.co.uk/cr. You can also use the website to download a copy of our latest corporate responsibility report.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us. I hope this information is useful to you.
Kind regards
sleep envy said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just got back from the weekly trudge around the supermarket. Tired after a day staring at a monitor and arguing with clients. Half the shelves empty because the non-working under-class have troughed everything in between Jeremy Vine and Trisha. Unload the trolley, go round to start packing and find no plastic bags. Politely point out to the vacuous tart behind the till that something vital is missing (other than what is lacking between her ears). Only to be told that this is now their policy "to shame their customers into having to ask for them".
My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
internet shopping, it costs £5 which is worth less than 1.5 hours of my time in a supermarketMy response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
sleep envy said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Just got back from the weekly trudge around the supermarket. Tired after a day staring at a monitor and arguing with clients. Half the shelves empty because the non-working under-class have troughed everything in between Jeremy Vine and Trisha. Unload the trolley, go round to start packing and find no plastic bags. Politely point out to the vacuous tart behind the till that something vital is missing (other than what is lacking between her ears). Only to be told that this is now their policy "to shame their customers into having to ask for them".
My response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
internet shopping, it costs £5 which is worth less than 1.5 hours of my time in a supermarketMy response was possibly a little intemperate. "Never mind love, if you are ashamed of this customer, you can shove your food up your arse." I'm having a takeaway for dinner and planning a trip to Waitrose in the morning.
sleep envy said:
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internet shopping, it costs £5 which is worth less than 1.5 hours of my time in a supermarket
Work out your hourly rate of pay.internet shopping, it costs £5 which is worth less than 1.5 hours of my time in a supermarket
How long would it take to drive to shop,do shopping & drive home?
Less than £5.00?
But how can the soopermarkets justify this?
So they add a fiver to your bill.
(assuming prices are the same)
They pay a member of staff to walk round the store & collect the items.
Pack your bags.
Load into a van.
Pay a driver.
Pay deesul!
Doesn't it just make you laugh when you see people with a huge trolley full of shopping, which equates to about ten bags worth, which in turn equates to probably five bags of packaging. And they think they're doing their bit for the environment by using a bag for life.
The carrier bags would probably be the only things re-used out of this lot anyway.
The carrier bags would probably be the only things re-used out of this lot anyway.
I re-used a M&S bag the other day, only to discover as I was wondering around M&S that an errant cat must have got through the catflap and pissed on the bag where it lay in the corner of the kitchen.
This is as good an argument as I can think of against using plastic bags more than once for shopping.
This is as good an argument as I can think of against using plastic bags more than once for shopping.
Shaw Tarse said:
sleep envy said:
internet shopping, it costs £5 which is worth less than 1.5 hours of my time in a supermarket
Work out your hourly rate of pay.How long would it take to drive to shop,do shopping & drive home?
Less than £5.00?
But how can the soopermarkets justify this?
So they add a fiver to your bill.
(assuming prices are the same)
They pay a member of staff to walk round the store & collect the items.
Pack your bags.
Load into a van.
Pay a driver.
Pay deesul!
Sainsbury's bans plastic carrier bags for a day
David Adam, environment correspondent The Guardian,
Thursday April 19 2007
The supermarket giant Sainsbury's is to ban disposable plastic carrier bags - for a single day. Shoppers passing through the checkouts on Friday next week will instead be given 10p reusable bags for free, a move that Sainsbury's called a "revolution in supermarket shopping".
It said the 24-hour embargo was to make people aware of the environmental costs of their actions and encourage them to be more environmentally friendly.
Gwyn Burr, customer director, said: "We will provide the bags for free, but we need customers to reuse them to really make the difference. Customers often want to do their bit, but often don't know where to start."
Sainsbury's said the day would cost it £700,000, and it would replace the reusable bags free when they wore out.
Liz Goodwin, chief executive of the Waste and Resources Action Programme, said: "We hope it results in a longer term change in our habits. Too many of us rely on free carrier bags when we shop and 13bn are used every year in the UK."
Tesco alone gives out 4bn plastic bags each year, but it gives reward points to shoppers who refuse them.
British retailers have pledged to reduce the use of carrier bags by 25% by 2008, while Ireland's "plastax" of about 30 cents (20p) on each bag, introduced in 2002, has led to a 90% reduction in use. Australia has launched a Say No To Carrier Bags campaign and in Taiwan and Hong Kong, the governments make supermarkets charge for bags at least two days a week.
Sainsbury's said next Friday would be the first in a series of five days intended to highlight its corporate responsibility principles. A spokeswoman said it would monitor customer reactions to see if a longer-lasting bag ban was feasible. The supermarket says customers who use the reusable bags an average of 20 times save 90m disposable bags each year.
David Adam, environment correspondent The Guardian,
Thursday April 19 2007
The supermarket giant Sainsbury's is to ban disposable plastic carrier bags - for a single day. Shoppers passing through the checkouts on Friday next week will instead be given 10p reusable bags for free, a move that Sainsbury's called a "revolution in supermarket shopping".
It said the 24-hour embargo was to make people aware of the environmental costs of their actions and encourage them to be more environmentally friendly.
Gwyn Burr, customer director, said: "We will provide the bags for free, but we need customers to reuse them to really make the difference. Customers often want to do their bit, but often don't know where to start."
Sainsbury's said the day would cost it £700,000, and it would replace the reusable bags free when they wore out.
Liz Goodwin, chief executive of the Waste and Resources Action Programme, said: "We hope it results in a longer term change in our habits. Too many of us rely on free carrier bags when we shop and 13bn are used every year in the UK."
Tesco alone gives out 4bn plastic bags each year, but it gives reward points to shoppers who refuse them.
British retailers have pledged to reduce the use of carrier bags by 25% by 2008, while Ireland's "plastax" of about 30 cents (20p) on each bag, introduced in 2002, has led to a 90% reduction in use. Australia has launched a Say No To Carrier Bags campaign and in Taiwan and Hong Kong, the governments make supermarkets charge for bags at least two days a week.
Sainsbury's said next Friday would be the first in a series of five days intended to highlight its corporate responsibility principles. A spokeswoman said it would monitor customer reactions to see if a longer-lasting bag ban was feasible. The supermarket says customers who use the reusable bags an average of 20 times save 90m disposable bags each year.
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