Replacing Sash Windows - Any Money In The Old Ones?

[sa_20v]

Just a thought, never one to lose any money on anything. Does anyone know of anyone who might be interested in second hand wooden sash windows in good condition?

[robinhood21]

Could try your local reclamation yard.

[ozzerr]

Rotting timbers plate glass,no sale i am afraid.

[Chrispy Porker]

Ebay?
You can flog anything on there.

[marctwo]

If they are in such good condition why are you getting rid of them?

[sa_20v]

marctwo said:

If they are in such good condition why are you getting rid of them?

Single glazed - the windows might as well be open for all the good they do in terms of insulation and sound proofing...

[Brown and Boris]

sa_20v said:

Just a thought, never one to lose any money on anything. Does anyone know of anyone who might be interested in second hand wooden sash windows in good condition?

Why not secondary glaze and keep them?

I have just had my Yorkshire sliding sashes repaired (they had been painted shut since 1909). They were put in in 1785 and have no rot at all, although the glass is a bit fragile. They don't build 'em like they used to!

[Podie]

Assume there are no preservation orders or caveats on keeping them...?

[scotal]

sa_20v said:

marctwo said:

If they are in such good condition why are you getting rid of them?

Single glazed - the windows might as well be open for all the good they do in terms of insulation and sound proofing...

have you looked into having them renovated, double glazed and sound proofed?


ETa and draught proofed as well of ocurse.

Edited by scotal on Thursday 2nd October 11:58

[Benny Saltstein]

sa_20v said:

marctwo said:

If they are in such good condition why are you getting rid of them?

Single glazed - the windows might as well be open for all the good they do in terms of insulation and sound proofing...

Don't rule out having them renovated. One option would be to have the sliding sashes replaced with double glazed units. It can be expensive but if its a period property so much better than wacking in bog standard UPVC units.

ETA - scotal beat me to it, what he said. We had a Victorian semi and refurbed all the sashes, cost about £600 a window including draught proofing, paint stripped and redone, new cords etc, locks installed.

Edited by Benny Saltstein on Thursday 2nd October 12:02

[Yertis]

Benny Saltstein said:

sa_20v said:

marctwo said:

If they are in such good condition why are you getting rid of them?

Single glazed - the windows might as well be open for all the good they do in terms of insulation and sound proofing...

Don't rule out having them renovated. One option would be to have the sliding sashes replaced with double glazed units. It can be expensive but if its a period property so much better than wacking in bog standard UPVC units.

Yeah don't take them out, it's like putting your house's eyes in. Usually looks horrible.

[Hub]

Listed buildings, or those in Conservation Areas are normally required to keep them - so there could be a market for old ones to refurbish, or already refurbished ones. I assume there would also be a market for modern 'traditional' looking equivalents that also meet energy requirements though!

[215cu]

My father has created a very nice sideline in renovating these, usually in preservation areas (you will need to check). It's not as big a job (or as expensive) as you think.

In terms of reclamation, I'm not sure as I don't know if standard window sizes existed when these were made. However, personally, I would look to keep them as they add bags of character to a house and rather go down the secondary glazing route.

Edited by 215cu on Thursday 2nd October 12:15

[Dupont666]

Will be looking at this with interest as this is my next job, but not wanting to pay £600 per window for it repaired.

[tallbloke]

I pieced and patched the original sash windows on my victorian back to back terrace. And added the shrink on polycryo plastic for insulation. Won't help much with noise, but you can always turn the stereo up.

One issue with fitting double glazed sashes is the increased weight. You'll need to check you can get bigger weights into the frames and still have them open fully.

Don't rip the original frames out unless you really have to. The old timber will generally be better than any kiln dried stuff you'll get today.

[danielgray]

Brown and Boris said:

sa_20v said:

Just a thought, never one to lose any money on anything. Does anyone know of anyone who might be interested in second hand wooden sash windows in good condition?

Why not secondary glaze and keep them?

I have just had my Yorkshire sliding sashes repaired (they had been painted shut since 1909). They were put in in 1785 and have no rot at all, although the glass is a bit fragile. They don't build 'em like they used to!

An advert for lead based paint really I suspect, it may be a bit toxic but it works, being painted shut should also have helped keep water out.

[siscar]

We had ours done by a company called Ventrolla, they did a good job. Cost about £3k for 10 windows and although they are single glazed they work great and fit properly. Replaced all the rotten bits and now we can easily take the windows out for painting etc.

[Milky Joe]

Chrispy Porker said:

Ebay?
You can flog anything on there.

True, DucatiGary flogged his dead horse on Ebay.

[darronwall]

if their was i would be a rich man!! ive taken thousands of these out and put horrible pvc casement windows in their place.
as for replacing them,some pvc sliding sash windows are very good and really look the part too!!

[Balmoral Green]

darronwall said:

ive taken thousands of these out and put horrible pvc casement windows in their place.

You and me both. Crimes against Heritage eh?

darronwall said:

some pvc sliding sash windows are very good and really look the part too!!

They certainly do, not bad at all some of them.