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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7658...
Nor concern over climate change either it seems. A litle bit hypocritical IMHO to be teaching one thing andthen spending school money adding to that exact problem.
I thought schools were equipped with, well classrooms and presentation equipment just like a Barcelona hotel. Giveaway for me is the fact it was funded partly by 'staff contributions' and that it took place on a Friday and I would put what is left of my savings on it that they didn't all fly back Friday evening?
I am so glad my Council tax goes to such good causes because teachers deserve a break, it being almost 2 weeks until their next week off.
Nor concern over climate change either it seems. A litle bit hypocritical IMHO to be teaching one thing andthen spending school money adding to that exact problem.
I thought schools were equipped with, well classrooms and presentation equipment just like a Barcelona hotel. Giveaway for me is the fact it was funded partly by 'staff contributions' and that it took place on a Friday and I would put what is left of my savings on it that they didn't all fly back Friday evening?
I am so glad my Council tax goes to such good causes because teachers deserve a break, it being almost 2 weeks until their next week off.
Jinx said:
kambites said:
If it was cheaper than the locally available programs, I fail to see the problem.
How can it be cheaper than using the empty school?ETA; Although having read the whole article, I'll admit it doesn't sound likely that that would cost 6 grand or whatever the trip did. Not impossible for that many people though...
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 8th October 08:40
Ryanair fly penny deals to Gerona, a busride north of barcelona. I wonder what the level of staff contribution was. Probably the cost of the flight, about £75 all in with the carbon tax.
So if it was a cost of £200 each for a training day, that seems like a pretty small pignut in the trough compared to the £250,000,000,000 the taxpayer is about to shove into the institutions which have been making huge profits during the good times. We are now picking up the tab for the big bonuses and shareholder payouts.
How much is lunch for 20 with a bottle or two of laffite '82 at the posh city restaurants?
So if it was a cost of £200 each for a training day, that seems like a pretty small pignut in the trough compared to the £250,000,000,000 the taxpayer is about to shove into the institutions which have been making huge profits during the good times. We are now picking up the tab for the big bonuses and shareholder payouts.
How much is lunch for 20 with a bottle or two of laffite '82 at the posh city restaurants?
kambites said:
If it was cheaper than the locally available programs, I fail to see the problem.
Doesn't really matter IMO - it's the impression it gives. And that impression is that they are taking the piss. It's bad PR and I can't believe that whoever organised it didn't figure the press would sieze on it like a rabid terrier.
Brown and Boris said:
Giveaway for me is the fact it was funded partly by 'staff contributions' and that it took place on a Friday and I would put what is left of my savings on it that they didn't all fly back Friday evening?
Too right. How dare they give up a weekend and pay for part of a tedious training course out of their own pockets!Burn them!
Orb the Impaler said:
kambites said:
If it was cheaper than the locally available programs, I fail to see the problem.
Doesn't really matter IMO - it's the impression it gives. And that impression is that they are taking the piss. It's bad PR and I can't believe that whoever organised it didn't figure the press would sieze on it like a rabid terrier.
kambites said:
Orb the Impaler said:
kambites said:
If it was cheaper than the locally available programs, I fail to see the problem.
Doesn't really matter IMO - it's the impression it gives. And that impression is that they are taking the piss. It's bad PR and I can't believe that whoever organised it didn't figure the press would sieze on it like a rabid terrier.
Brown and Boris said:
That £5K might help a bit with improving education?
Superb idea. Maybe get the teachers to teach better. How would we do that? I know, take them out of the classroom and get them talking about how to teach more effectively, in some sort of facilitated training course maybe.Hey, you could even save money by using a cheap foreign location, and improve morale to boot!
Better still, get the teachers to pay for part of it themselves!
HundredthIdiot said:
Brown and Boris said:
That £5K might help a bit with improving education?
Superb idea. Maybe get the teachers to teach better. How would we do that? I know, take them out of the classroom and get them talking about how to teach more effectively, in some sort of facilitated training course maybe.Hey, you could even save money by using a cheap foreign location, and improve morale to boot!
Better still, get the teachers to pay for part of it themselves!
HundredthIdiot said:
Brown and Boris said:
That £5K might help a bit with improving education?
Superb idea. Maybe get the teachers to teach better. How would we do that? I know, take them out of the classroom and get them talking about how to teach more effectively, in some sort of facilitated training course maybe.quote]
Do it in the school maybe? Also, there is no suggestio they worked the weekend , other than visiting a few Picasso sites. It's a tough job. They get 4 or 5 PD days a year to help them improve their teaching, what added value did they get from going to an overseas hotel and spending £5k of the school cash?
I think they have very little perception of public opinion if they thought this was going to go down well witrh anyone but themselves, and you of course.
Brown and Boris said:
I think they have very little perception of public opinion if they thought this was going to go down well witrh anyone but themselves, and you of course.
And? I have bugger all idea of how the public perceives what I do, and it makes even less or a difference to how well I can do my job. This country would be a whole lot better if people kept their noses out of other peoples affairs.I have no problem in teachers having "off site meetings" in various places, and Barcelona is a great place to go to - I'm sure they got a lot more done in terms of creative thinking than they would have done in their classrooms. As far as I can see anything to make teachers more interesting/engaging and broaden their horizons is a good thing.
WHAT bothers me is that they do it term time - surely they can manage to fit training in during the 16 or so weeks in between term time?
WHAT bothers me is that they do it term time - surely they can manage to fit training in during the 16 or so weeks in between term time?
Windsorphil said:
WHAT bothers me is that they do it term time - surely they can manage to fit training in during the 16 or so weeks in between term time?
Most of the teachers I know in the UK spend quite a lot of their "holiday" time working. That's not to say they don't get a lot of holiday, or get paid reasonably well for it.
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