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BoRED S2upid

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21,069 posts

270 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Anyone on here done one?.

My boss did an MBA over the past 3 years, everyone knows you can buy / download enough material to get one of these, im sure this is how he got his.

Now to my suprise hes been accepted to do a PHD part time. I have one mate who did a PHD and he was the brightest guy ive known straight A's at A Level etc... So how is this halfwit of a boss going to ever get a PHD?

V8mate

45,899 posts

219 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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You can do GCSE's at night-school if you're jealous of all the learning which is going on around you.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Depends on the subject - and the examiners.

scruffy

1,244 posts

296 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Mine's Physics. 8 years... travelled between UMIST, Cern (topical now!) and MIT.

Couldn't afford it now - and the maths is harder...

I should add that I went in late with an appalling school record, but was very well read and proved I could do sums without numbers...

What do you want to do?

Edited by scruffy on Tuesday 14th October 14:00

Neil_H

15,418 posts

281 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Are you jealous of your boss by any chance?

When I was at Uni I had a housemate who was doing a PHD in Sport Science laugh

BoRED S2upid

Original Poster:

21,069 posts

270 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Neil_H said:
Are you jealous of your boss by any chance?

When I was at Uni I had a housemate who was doing a PHD in Sport Science laugh
biglaugh

Not at all. I have some decent A-Levels and degree but decided not to go any further. Im sure I could have wasted years with further studies.

I think it will be funny when he adds Dr to his MBA after his name (Or actually before). People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not. I might do one one day in something really bizzar like Internet Forum Psychology.

Timmy35

13,014 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Not a PHd, but I'm starting a distance learnt MSc in January that I can do as a correspondance course whilst learning.

So I can't see why your boss can't do a PHd in a similar manner.

The 3 year time pressure to do one seemed to stem from funding restrictions anyway. I knew one guy who'd been doing a PHd for 7 years!

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
Neil_H said:
Are you jealous of your boss by any chance?

When I was at Uni I had a housemate who was doing a PHD in Sport Science laugh
biglaugh

Not at all. I have some decent A-Levels and degree but decided not to go any further. Im sure I could have wasted years with further studies.

I think it will be funny when he adds Dr to his MBA after his name (Or actually before). People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not. I might do one one day in something really bizzar like Internet Forum Psychology.
You could do a PHD on the "Fried Potato Segment / Scapula Interface and Surrounding Psychological Phenomena'

Timmy35

13,014 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not.
Carol Voderman has one, having managed to get a 3rd in her first degree. These days a PHd is more of a tertiary qualification for those who've yet to decide what they actually want to after University. IMO.

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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BoRED S2upid said:
Neil_H said:
Are you jealous of your boss by any chance?

When I was at Uni I had a housemate who was doing a PHD in Sport Science laugh
biglaugh

Not at all. I have some decent A-Levels and degree but decided not to go any further. Im sure I could have wasted years with further studies.

I think it will be funny when he adds Dr to his MBA after his name (Or actually before). People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not. I might do one one day in something really bizzar like Internet Forum Psychology.
What is your degree in, btw?

8Ace

2,836 posts

228 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Timmy35 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not.
Carol Voderman has one, having managed to get a 3rd in her first degree. These days a PHd is more of a tertiary qualification for those who've yet to decide what they actually want to after University. IMO.
First time I've heard of this. If memory serves me correctly she webnt straight into telly after her 3rd 3rd. (see article below - Nines club hehe)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Vorderman

BoRED S2upid

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21,069 posts

270 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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johnfm said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Neil_H said:
Are you jealous of your boss by any chance?

When I was at Uni I had a housemate who was doing a PHD in Sport Science laugh
biglaugh

Not at all. I have some decent A-Levels and degree but decided not to go any further. Im sure I could have wasted years with further studies.

I think it will be funny when he adds Dr to his MBA after his name (Or actually before). People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not. I might do one one day in something really bizzar like Internet Forum Psychology.
What is your degree in, btw?
Business and Law one of those modular degrees where you pick all the modules that interest you and leave out all the rubbish ones wink


Neil_H

15,418 posts

281 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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PhD's are more a test of ones analytical and reasoning skills than intelligence. The exception being the classic sciences - if you have a PHD in Applied Mathematics, Theoretical Physics etc etc then you have my respect as a brainy bugger (although you probably smell of BO). biggrin

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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So, not LLB then?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Timmy35 said:
BoRED S2upid said:
People presume the title Dr requires academic brilliance, obviously not.
Carol Voderman has one, having managed to get a 3rd in her first degree. These days a PHd is more of a tertiary qualification for those who've yet to decide what they actually want to after University. IMO.
I'll let my boss know that then wink

xiphias

5,889 posts

257 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Some of the people on my course who went onto phds couldn't make beans on toast.

Mr POD

5,153 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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We have a few very talented Scientists with Phd's where I work.

We all went karting the other week. Fecking Useless, one and all.

My sister (Dr Jacko?) has a PHd in some highly specialised scientific area. She did it because she could not get a real job after doing an Msc in some highly specialised scientific area, which she did because she couldn't get a real job after her degree in some highly specialised scientific area, which she did because....her A levels were not good enough to get into medical school, cause she wanted to be a Doctor

Anyway she now has a job in admin.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

291 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Surprised no one has posted this yet.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R5prT2qiiWY

Mr POD

5,153 posts

222 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Mr POD said:
We have a few very talented Scientists with Phd's where I work.

We all went karting the other week. Fecking Useless, one and all.

My sister (Dr Jacko?) has a PHd in some highly specialised scientific area. She did it because she could not get a real job after doing an Msc in some highly specialised scientific area, which she did because she couldn't get a real job after her degree in some highly specialised scientific area, which she did because....her A levels were not good enough to get into medical school, cause she wanted to be a Doctor

Anyway she now has a job in admin.
I have to add that when I worked for Lucas in the early 90s' we sponsored lots of research students at various universities, and I was responsible for project managing 8 people's research and making sure that they got the right interaction with real world manufacturing / design / development sites as appropriate. I was asked if I wanted to do a Phd (whilst also doing a full time job). I think I responded with a sentence which include the word OFF in it.

DKL

4,977 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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PhD s aren't hard per se but they take a lot of dedication.
I treated mine as work, working work hours not student hours. There will be noone looking over your shoulder pushing you to get on, although your supervisor might, so it is up to you.
Those colleagues who came striaght from undergraduate courses found it much harder as they expected to be able to continue their undergrad timetable and get through in 3 years. Didn't happen, though they speeded up when they realised the problem.
Your thesis is a big undertaking, mine ran to 300 pages plus appendices etc and its a science one. But you will have done big chunks preparing papers etc for publication you just need to rewrite them.
Was it any use? Well arguably no but its nice to have, and it's nice to say you have the highest academic degree available. I don't think you can "do" a DSc course as such but your work and publications can be examined by your peers to award it or it can be bestowed by the university.