"A friend of a friend"
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Was recently made redundant along with the whole sales team for a small business. The company is still going on with a skeleton team of owners and admin. The concern for the team is that although the business has no debt at all they are concerned about the possibility of not getting paid.
They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
lingus75 said:
Was recently made redundant along with the whole sales team for a small business. The company is still going on with a skeleton team of owners and admin. The concern for the team is that although the business has no debt at all they are concerned about the possibility of not getting paid.
They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
They have payslips but have not received any pay? Normally payslips are issued at the time of the payment aren't they?They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
They are legally entitled to their payment unless the company was wound up/ceased to trade etc. If they have not been paid then it's a case of establishing the debt and pursuing it.
lingus75 said:
Was recently made redundant along with the whole sales team for a small business. The company is still going on with a skeleton team of owners and admin. The concern for the team is that although the business has no debt at all they are concerned about the possibility of not getting paid.
They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
How can they have payslips without pay?They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
Lola22 said:
lingus75 said:
Was recently made redundant along with the whole sales team for a small business. The company is still going on with a skeleton team of owners and admin. The concern for the team is that although the business has no debt at all they are concerned about the possibility of not getting paid.
They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
How can they have payslips without pay?They have all been given formal notice with the amount they are getting and have received this month’s payslips in the usual manner. The business is to remain at the same address and is not going into liquidation (as far as they know) but doubts have been raised. The office manager is certain they will get paid and in fairness the directors are good blokes and most of the team are staying on to help with a transition.
The question my 'friend' has is now they have the payslips and they have been informed there is enough money, how could the directors legally get out of paying if they so wished, and what steps could the staff take if this happened?
MK4 Slowride said:
They'll get paid what they're owed regardless.
Tell them to get their CV in line and get back out there as the long they wait the harder it'll be.
I know this from painful recent & distant past experience.
Does the N.I kitty pay them if the are wound up aswell as if they just didn't have the money but continued to trade?Tell them to get their CV in line and get back out there as the long they wait the harder it'll be.
I know this from painful recent & distant past experience.
lingus75 said:
MK4 Slowride said:
They'll get paid what they're owed regardless.
Tell them to get their CV in line and get back out there as the long they wait the harder it'll be.
I know this from painful recent & distant past experience.
Does the N.I kitty pay them if the are wound up aswell as if they just didn't have the money but continued to trade?Tell them to get their CV in line and get back out there as the long they wait the harder it'll be.
I know this from painful recent & distant past experience.
ish.MK4 Slowride said:
lingus75 said:
MK4 Slowride said:
They'll get paid what they're owed regardless.
Tell them to get their CV in line and get back out there as the long they wait the harder it'll be.
I know this from painful recent & distant past experience.
Does the N.I kitty pay them if the are wound up aswell as if they just didn't have the money but continued to trade?Tell them to get their CV in line and get back out there as the long they wait the harder it'll be.
I know this from painful recent & distant past experience.
ish.Maybe some HR boffins can help but if someone is made redundant and the company stays open and then takes on someone in that job role isn't it seen as constructive dismissal for the original worker? I might be totally mistaken on this and am there to be shot down!
Edited by ticmon on Tuesday 14th October 21:01
If they can still trade without everyone losing their job then I wouldn't have thought there's a problem with that so long as they don't appoint anyone else. Then again a company I used to work for would sometimes make a position redundant say Corporate manager and appoint someone else as Business manager doing the same job. Sly s.
s.You will but it can take a few weeks. If you are in dire straights then go to the job centre to claim the benefits you're entitled to whilst seeking further employment. They appreciate you phone first to book your slot & they will need evidence of your financial situation.
Good luck it's a stty thing to happen to anyone.
I'm using it as a chance to do something different & if that doesn't work out go back to a car franchise. I do miss my cars.
Good luck it's a s
tty thing to happen to anyone.I'm using it as a chance to do something different & if that doesn't work out go back to a car franchise. I do miss my cars.
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