Feasibility of DNA testing for workplace toilet pest?
Feasibility of DNA testing for workplace toilet pest?
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Kiltie

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7,505 posts

276 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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Imagine, in an office environment of some 80 people (60/40 M/F), there had been a series of disgusting incidents in the male toilets (say, roughly, one per week over a few months).

Let's say, for example, that small quantities of faecal matter were being left on the floor of cubicles in gents toilets.

For the sake of this hypothesis, take it that the issue has been raised at ‘all staff’ type meetings such that the individual responsible was given the opportunity to desist – but they didn’t.

Would it be practical to suggest DNA testing of all male workers to match the "deposits" and hence identify the perpetrator?

I'm wondering about expense and any privacy issues from an employment law point of view.

All of the above is merely hypothetical but it’s a serious question. If it happened somewhere I worked, I’d be pretty hacked off.


Edited by Kiltie on Monday 27th October 23:38

TheCaseAce

700 posts

241 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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lol. Where the hell do you work????

I would love to have been in that "all staff" meeting.


"Any other business?"
"Yes, will people please stop stting on the floor. It's annoying the cleaners"

CosmicMatt

634 posts

227 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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I swear I heard that you can't DNA Sh**!

Just look for the scum. Its the scum, the jack the lad, the tt. Or the person with a rather strange choice of fetish.

Edited by CosmicMatt on Monday 27th October 23:42

Flatland

853 posts

220 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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I doubt they'll resort to DNA testing, for reasons of expense if nothing else. So it's unlikely you'll get caught like that. Just stop stting on the floor and you'll be fine.

J-Skid

1,099 posts

288 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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TheCaseAce said:
"Any other business?"
"Yes, will people please stop stting on the floor. It's annoying the cleaners"
Any other "business"...... rofl

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Monday 27th October 2008
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how does that happen exactly??

I fail to see the practical side of stting on the floor.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

284 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Hah if my works asked for a DNA sample I'd tell them to get stuffed.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?

dmitsi

3,583 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Kiltie said:
Imagine, in an office environment of some 80 people (60/40 M/F), there had been a series of disgusting incidents in the male toilets (say, roughly, one per week over a few months).

Let's say, for example, that small quantities of faecal matter were being left on the floor of cubicles in gents toilets.

For the sake of this hypothesis, take it that the issue has been raised at ‘all staff’ type meetings such that the individual responsible was given the opportunity to desist – but they didn’t.

Would it be practical to suggest DNA testing of all male workers to match the "deposits" and hence identify the perpetrator?

I'm wondering about expense and any privacy issues from an employment law point of view.

All of the above is merely hypothetical but it’s a serious question. If it happened somewhere I worked, I’d be pretty hacked off.


Edited by Kiltie on Monday 27th October 23:38
Probably best to just stop doing it in case they do bother. If you want to carry on I'd keep a 'clean' DNA sample for when they come knocking at your cubicle.

Kiltie

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7,505 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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mybrainhurts said:
Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?
Why do you ask? Is there some kind of link with this kind of behaviour potentially?

Edited by Kiltie on Tuesday 28th October 00:12

Airbag

3,466 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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mybrainhurts said:
Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?
I was about to say, there are some legitimate reasons this could be happening, especially if it's always in the handicapped washroom.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Kiltie said:
mybrainhurts said:
Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?
Why do you ask? Is there some kind of link potentially?
Try wiping your arse with the trembles and see where the sh!t flies...

rabw

9,027 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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mybrainhurts said:
Kiltie said:
mybrainhurts said:
Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?
Why do you ask? Is there some kind of link potentially?
Try wiping your arse with the trembles and see where the sh!t flies...
rofl

On a serious note, we had this at school when I was in 6th form. Firstly st was left in the urinals a few times, then the sinks, and then once smeared round the mirrors (I'm not kidding, I saw it!). Kids all knew who it was, and it led to him being suspended, after which it stopped.

outlaw biker

2,458 posts

226 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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We have quite a few foreigners working at our place. Suffice to say, some countrys have different toilet habits. Bins were being used by a very small minority for placing things in that really should have gone down the toilet.

Kiltie

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7,505 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Airbag said:
mybrainhurts said:
Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?
I was about to say, there are some legitimate reasons this could be happening, especially if it's always in the handicapped washroom.
Let's work on the basis that it's never been recorded in the handicapped toilet.

Let's also assume that there's nobody on site with a nervous disorder which presents physical symptoms which could explain this as an 'accident'.

If this was a real scenario, I believe the culprit’s colleagues would easily forgive the act but not the failure to clean up afterwards.


Edited by Kiltie on Tuesday 28th October 00:28

Don

28,378 posts

314 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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Kiltie said:
Airbag said:
mybrainhurts said:
Any of your staff got Parkinson's disease...?
I was about to say, there are some legitimate reasons this could be happening, especially if it's always in the handicapped washroom.
Let's work on the basis that it's never been recorded in the handicapped toilet.

Let's also assume that there's nobody on site with a nervous disorder which presents physical symptoms which could explain this as an 'accident'.

If this was a real scenario, I believe the culprit’s colleagues would easily forgive the act but not the failure to clean up afterwards.
Ah you have a Phantom Bog Bandit too. Our one is unintentional - a matter of checking the cleanliness after use rather than intentional defacing defecations...

I hope you catch the bd. Good luck.

digitise

179 posts

241 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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In this hypothetical environment, have the toilet seats ever been snapped off their hinges? As mentioned previously, different people have different toilet habits and I've been to numerous workplaces where seats have been broken under the strain of people standing on them to squat.

Having never tried it myself I can only guess that standing on a loo seat and squatting may occasionally lead to poor aim and the resultant situation you describe biggrin

Scraggles

7,619 posts

254 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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some countries custom is to squat, so some new people stand on the seat and let go above it, most of it hits the spot, if some goes the wrong way....

as for peeing all over the seat, wtf is this about, spotted some asian doing it, had a right go at him, hard to tell, but think he blushed

andymc

7,622 posts

237 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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we have had this before as well, someone took a dump on the toilet seat. we have also had gentleman's relish left on the cubicle door, cant whack the good old civil service

daver777

245 posts

244 months

Tuesday 28th October 2008
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interestingly, forensic boys get involved in this kind of stuff a lot, the most common being p1ss in the coffee.
try KFS services in coventry