Old films now on Blu Ray
Old films now on Blu Ray
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E31Shrew

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5,963 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Help!....I can't for the life of me work out how old films, including such classics as The Life of Brian, are now available on Blu Ray. What processes are involved to convert from SD to HD 1080p? Can all old films be converted?

dtmpower

3,972 posts

275 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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They can scan the film at high resolution and encode it....

thehawk

9,335 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Old films were never recorded in SD. Have a think about it wink



V6

3,781 posts

251 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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The process is:

- Check to see whether there are gullible people who will pay £20 for old films
- Check to see whether they can make it look slightly better
- Sell Sell Sell

E31Shrew

Original Poster:

5,963 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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thehawk said:
Old films were never recorded in SD. Have a think about it wink
Good thinking...but you know what I mean!

illmonkey

19,821 posts

228 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Film is a much higher res that HD. So they just rescan the film at 1080p.

rich1231

17,340 posts

290 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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E31Shrew said:
thehawk said:
Old films were never recorded in SD. Have a think about it wink
Good thinking...but you know what I mean!
No we dont.

As that would mean we had empathy and understanding with an idiot.

E31Shrew

Original Poster:

5,963 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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V6 said:
The process is:

- Check to see whether there are gullible people who will pay £20 for old films
- Check to see whether they can make it look slightly better
- Sell Sell Sell
Handy for me in the store though, as we play standard DVDs next to Blu Ray to show difference. Also tough trying to find films we can show that are 12 certificate and less.

thehawk

9,335 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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1080p is 1920x1080 pixels.

I think 35mm film is generally considered the equivalent of at least 3840x2160 pixels.

Essentially a current full-HD set is only showing 25% of the detail that film shows. I'm sure we'll all be conned by next gen HD in a few years time.

E31Shrew

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5,963 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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thehawk said:
1080p is 1920x1080 pixels.

I think 35mm film is generally considered the equivalent of at least 3840x2160 pixels.

Essentially a current full-HD set is only showing 25% of the detail that film shows. I'm sure we'll all be conned by next gen HD in a few years time.
Thanks for that..

tamore

9,991 posts

314 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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thehawk said:
1080p is 1920x1080 pixels.

I think 35mm film is generally considered the equivalent of at least 3840x2160 pixels.

Essentially a current full-HD set is only showing 25% of the detail that film shows. I'm sure we'll all be conned by next gen HD in a few years time.
is it just the trend to be cynical about everything these days?

the improvement in picture and sound quality avalaiable in the home is phenominal compared to 5 years ago. so i'm glad i've been 'conned'.

the fact is, to encode all the information from a reel of film onto a dvd type format isn't technically possible yet, but it will come.

derestrictor

18,764 posts

291 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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As The Hawk indicates, 35mm is far beyond the 1080P resolution and that's before you get to 70mm.

This was explained to me by Brother Gandalf recently as I restored an old, oak table. He rang me to extoll the simple benefits of a Sky HD transmission of 'Predator.'

Not exactly The Bard but it'll do in an emergency.

Road2Ruin

6,482 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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derestrictor said:
As The Hawk indicates, 35mm is far beyond the 1080P resolution and that's before you get to 70mm.

This was explained to me by Brother Gandalf recently as I restored an old, oak table. He rang me to extoll the simple benefits of a Sky HD transmission of 'Predator.'

Not exactly The Bard but it'll do in an emergency.
I doubt Sky had to hand the original film version of predator or even a HD version of it. I bet all they did was run it through some upscaling program and said there you go, HD. Which is of course coblers as your HD tv will do that for you anyway.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

234 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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illmonkey said:
Film is a much higher res that HD. So they just rescan the film at 1080p.
I did not know that.

GregE240

10,857 posts

297 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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derestrictor said:
As The Hawk indicates, 35mm is far beyond the 1080P resolution and that's before you get to 70mm.

This was explained to me by Brother Gandalf recently as I restored an old, oak table. He rang me to extoll the simple benefits of a Sky HD transmission of 'Predator.'

Not exactly The Bard but it'll do in an emergency.
Awesome, and y' know what, in spite of your deep seated Murdoch-mistrust, I simply cannot fathom why you don't pay your dough and get this install post-haste, dear boy.

The very *notion* of seeing a high-def Mr Ventura turn round to the massed ranks of Predator-fodder, mouth full of 'baccy and sneering that line would be more than enough to get me on the blower....

Neil_H

15,418 posts

281 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Along similar lines, one thing I can't for the life of me understand is how Ipods can carry hundreds of hours of music when a CD is is much wider and has less music. It seems to defy the laws of physics? confused

dave_s13

14,028 posts

299 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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'cos it's bigger, but less "dense"

Analogy would be a really intelligent dwarf vs a really stupid giant.

MrV

2,748 posts

258 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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Neil_H said:
Along similar lines, one thing I can't for the life of me understand is how Ipods can carry hundreds of hours of music when a CD is is much wider and has less music. It seems to defy the laws of physics? confused
Its the fairies it has in it wink

I am another who has replaced their videos with dvd's and am now going through the expensive process of buying my favorites on Blu ray as they come out

This time round I am going to do it very slowly as it annoys me how a film can be £3 in the bargain Dvd bucket and £20-£25 on Blu ray

Neil_H

15,418 posts

281 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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dave_s13 said:
'cos it's bigger, but less "dense"

Analogy would be a really intelligent dwarf vs a really stupid giant.
I hope that wasn't a serious answer to my 'question'.

qube_TA

8,405 posts

275 months

Wednesday 19th November 2008
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When I bought my PS3 it came with 2001-A Space Odyssey on BD, I had exactly the same thought thinking that such an old film couldn't possibly look good.

I was spectacularly wrong, it looks stunning.