Woolworths?
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s3fella

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10,524 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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Good or bad?
I personally shop there in the run up to xmas, their business is very seasonal and they have some valuable brands (ladybird etc) but it looks like they are in dire straits.

Will the PH massive be supporting them this weekend by getting your Quality Street there? If not, will this familiar name (but not so familiar I can remember how to spell it !!) soon be off from the High Street?

Edited by s3fella on Friday 21st November 00:14

Carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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Wo?

g4ry13

21,773 posts

284 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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They have no place on the high street any more - they offer nothing unique to the shopper. They need to be more focused if they're to last.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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Bugger the quality street. You can have the whole company for a quid.

s3fella

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10,524 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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I wanted to offer £1.50, but if I did, I would not have the £245Million of cash to pay off their creditors!!

I actually think it is quite an unusaul mix of product in the retail side, only proper HS stores with cloths, media, sweeties, toys etc, and they did it years before the Asdas of the world did in their retail parks!


sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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they're shrinking on a massive scale

one of my clients is slowly going round london buying them out of their leases

5 this year, a far larger number in 2009

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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They apparently rely on Christmas sales to fund the other 44 weeks of the year.

Presumably they're stting it.


sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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Plotloss said:
Presumably they're stting it.
2 sites were a particular problem, I think they'll concede those stores in Jan

s3fella

Original Poster:

10,524 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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I think that is true, the 44 week thing I mean. Well the retail side anyway, they also have a big wholesale media business I read (dvds etc) and a tv production company with the BBC.

Somehow, I just dont think Xmas will be the same without a last minute Christmas Eve dash round Woolies and a big bag of pick and mix in my 1970s petrol token fruit bowl!! LOL

Edited by s3fella on Friday 21st November 00:24

deevlash

10,442 posts

266 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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it would help if the stores werent filthy, didnt have crap merchandising and sold something you couldnt get cheaper or with a better range elsewhere. Good riddance I say.

benoli

1,351 posts

218 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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s3fella said:
I wanted to offer £1.50, but if I did, I would not have the £245Million of cash to pay off their creditors!!
can you offer the £1.50 - but just not take on the debts ?

s3fella

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10,524 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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On the High street though, I cannot think of a similar store with range of products (baby clothes, toys DVD games, sweets etc. And I always think the prices are good, but then I tend to shop last minute and get the xmas bargains!
Out local one is clean for sure but it does have a messy shop window!!

s3fella

Original Poster:

10,524 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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benoli said:
s3fella said:
I wanted to offer £1.50, but if I did, I would not have the £245Million of cash to pay off their creditors!!
can you offer the £1.50 - but just not take on the debts ?
Worth a try!! I'll email them !!LOL

I read just now that someone offered them £50M and take on the debts in March!! D'oh!!

benoli

1,351 posts

218 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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s3fella said:
benoli said:
s3fella said:
I wanted to offer £1.50, but if I did, I would not have the £245Million of cash to pay off their creditors!!
can you offer the £1.50 - but just not take on the debts ?
Worth a try!! I'll email them !!LOL

I read just now that someone offered them £50M and take on the debts in March!! D'oh!!
buy now - pay later !

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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I was a management trainee with them........... a long long time ago. At that time they were one of the biggest players on the high st, probably second or third behind M&S and possibly Sainsburys. The store I was in (Basingstoke) was huge and had been the anchor tennant in the then new shopping centre. The store was across two huge floors and had full grocery, greengrocery, deli and wet fish as well as furniture, white goods, electrical and huge clothing departments. They lost their way massively at the end of the eighties and through the 90's and failed to specialise at the time when Tesco, Sainsburys and Asda were moving to dominate the food sector and big specialist retailers like Dixons and Curry's were moving into larger units and taking away the specialist business. If I were them I would have gone back to where they started and become a "Dollar General" or "Dollar Tree" type outfit such as is seen everywhere in America.

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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I bought shares in these last week (oh dear) as I thought they had value in there somwhere, pensions deficit and debt included. The new top man has a bit of a track record for making a go of things and I was hopeing he'd grasp the opportunites presented by a recession with both hands.

It seems he's more keen on selling on the toubled arm of the business (high street) and doing what he can with the Entertainment UK business. I was also lead to belive their property was worth a few quid, even in these times and even as a leavehold.

I'm now thinking it'll go to the wall and the guy stalkinging them for their property will get his way and pick what he wants out of the runied remains.

Shame, I like the shop and my local one always seems busy. It seems they're busy but just not making money.

LadyHayles

1,113 posts

218 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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There is a vague chance that the company I work for could be getting the potential insolvency/rescue work of this company so I'll be able to get hold of loads of cheap quality street!!!!!

s3fella

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10,524 posts

216 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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Deloittes......?

Somewhatfoolish

5,080 posts

215 months

Friday 21st November 2008
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The shares may make sense if you believe that their distribution business has any value as that's what they will be keepinng after this move. I don't think it does long term really. On the other hand I own some woolies shares but only because I'm a lethargic , for me it's do or die with them!

What I would say... speculating on their shares without any priviliged informationn is fking stupid!

s3fella

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Friday 21st November 2008
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Somewhatfoolish said:
The shares may make sense if you believe that their distribution business has any value as that's what they will be keepinng after this move. I don't think it does long term really. On the other hand I own some woolies shares but only because I'm a lethargic , for me it's do or die with them!

What I would say... speculating on their shares without any priviliged informationn is fking stupid!
Speculating WITH such information aint too clever either, is it!! ??