Anyone here own a pub?
Discussion
its also tradtional for PH members to rip the piss out of everyone and everything!!OK here goes
For a freehold pub.
What are, and how much the hidden running costs, eg public liability insurance.
What profit do you make on a pint?
What (if any) qualifications do you need
pro's and con's etc
ta
smilerbaker said:
its also tradtional for PH members to rip the piss out of everyone and everything!!OK here goes
For a freehold pub.
What are, and how much the hidden running costs, eg public liability insurance.
What profit do you make on a pint?
What (if any) qualifications do you need
pro's and con's etc
ta
The margins on wet trade are not great and only work out if you do reasonable volumes. If you want to make a decent profit then you're going to need food and, even better, rooms for rent. If you do food you're going to need to budget at least £20,000 for a 'chef' if you're not going to do it yourself, of course.
It certainly isn't a business I would go into!
scotal said:
You do know how many pubs are going to the wall at the moment right?
Maybe that's why he wants to buy.A good bar or pub can make a fortune, but it really needs to attract people all the time. It could be good with a few nice female staff and being paid to spend your days "down the pub".
10 Pence Short said:
smilerbaker said:
its also tradtional for PH members to rip the piss out of everyone and everything!!OK here goes
For a freehold pub.
What are, and how much the hidden running costs, eg public liability insurance.
What profit do you make on a pint?
What (if any) qualifications do you need
pro's and con's etc
ta
The margins on wet trade are not great and only work out if you do reasonable volumes. If you want to make a decent profit then you're going to need food and, even better, rooms for rent. If you do food you're going to need to budget at least £20,000 for a 'chef' if you're not going to do it yourself, of course.
It certainly isn't a business I would go into!
Decent profit isn't the motive, as I can buy a place debt free.
plans for food etc are in hand.
You will need to do the Bristish Institute of Innkeeping exams for starters.
Basic Food Hygiene qualification as well.
Pass the police/council suitability (basically a CRB check.)
Obtain personal licence from the local council - pubs are not licensed as such, the licence is now down to the licencee.
If you get staff and plan to have then running the place, one of them should be the primary licence holder.
Basic Food Hygiene qualification as well.
Pass the police/council suitability (basically a CRB check.)
Obtain personal licence from the local council - pubs are not licensed as such, the licence is now down to the licencee.
If you get staff and plan to have then running the place, one of them should be the primary licence holder.
smilerbaker said:
its also tradtional for PH members to rip the piss out of everyone and everything!!OK here goes
For a freehold pub.
What are, and how much the hidden running costs, eg public liability insurance.
What profit do you make on a pint?
What (if any) qualifications do you need
pro's and con's etc
ta
- What are, and how much the hidden running costs, eg public liability insurance.
- What profit do you make on a pint?
- What (if any) qualifications do you need
- pro's and con's etc
king loads of cons, very few pros. 
Mail me and I'll help you more.
EDIT: 10 pence short has it nailed, by the way.
Edited by Landlord on Friday 21st November 10:43
smilerbaker said:
Decent profit isn't the motive, as I can buy a place debt free.
Awesome - a charity pub.You could call it, "The Free Pint." I am sure it would be popular.
You clearly don't know the first thing about pubs, either tenanted or managed - how on EARTH can you claim to know that you can buy a place debt free? How do you know how much it would cost?
Just to refresh you on business 101 - if you don't make a profit then you will tend to be MAKING A LOSS.
So the pub you just bought with your infinite resources will start eating into them very fast.
Why do you want to do this? For retirement?
walm said:
smilerbaker said:
Decent profit isn't the motive, as I can buy a place debt free.
Awesome - a charity pub.You could call it, "The Free Pint." I am sure it would be popular.
You clearly don't know the first thing about pubs, either tenanted or managed - how on EARTH can you claim to know that you can buy a place debt free? How do you know how much it would cost?
Just to refresh you on business 101 - if you don't make a profit then you will tend to be MAKING A LOSS.
So the pub you just bought with your infinite resources will start eating into them very fast.
Why do you want to do this? For retirement?
I know how much pubs costs thanks, I know how much stock cost, what I don't know are the 'hidden' costs, hence the question.
But feel free to comment on a subject you obvioiusly know nothing about.
walm said:
smilerbaker said:
Decent profit isn't the motive, as I can buy a place debt free.
Awesome - a charity pub.You could call it, "The Free Pint." I am sure it would be popular.
You clearly don't know the first thing about pubs, either tenanted or managed - how on EARTH can you claim to know that you can buy a place debt free? How do you know how much it would cost?
Just to refresh you on business 101 - if you don't make a profit then you will tend to be MAKING A LOSS.
So the pub you just bought with your infinite resources will start eating into them very fast.
Why do you want to do this? For retirement?
Blimey - quite a vitriolic response... I think you missed the first word of his sentence.I presume he means he'll be purchasing the place un-mortgaged.
Making a "profit" isn't that hard... what is a f
king royal pain-in-the-arse, is getting decent, reliable, hard-working staff and keeping them. One has to remember that this is an industry that attracts the "lower" end of the employment spectrum (lower academically, lower ambitious-ly and lower attitude to alcoholism/morally).Gassing Station | The Pie & Piston Archive | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff



