Any Lawyers about: I need some advice on a matter of work
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Lurking Lawyer said:
Bit too cryptic for anyone reading to be able to tell what kind of advice you're after.....
Care to elaborate a little so that any of the PH lawyers can decide whether they feel able to venture a view?
OK.Care to elaborate a little so that any of the PH lawyers can decide whether they feel able to venture a view?
Matters of confidence. When someone tells you something in confidence when legally do you need to take it to higher/legal authority. I am not covered by oaths or the privacy of the confessional and I need to know if there are situations where legally I have an OBLIGATION to act.
Client confidence is everything, but legal responsibility is something else all together.
Is that clearer?
need the legal view thoughIf you don't have a pre-agreemnet as most counselleors do, I would say that if the matter is one where someone will be sriously inured, killed , abused etc then the motal obligation is to act/disclose. Most counselloers make that clkear to clisnts before they start that if they admit X, Y or Z or say they are going to do A, B or C (like kill themselves or others) then you will tell the authorities.
I preseume that since you don't have that framework you are not a professional counselleor in which case I would sayy the above rule applies with impunity; if they intend to hurt themselves or others or commit a serious criminal act you have to grass them up (or get them to do it themselves).
If it just someone at work who is admitting have a problem which can affect their work but isn't dangerous (like stealing stuff) the obligation is moral and in your hands. If however they have a drugs problem and are operating JCBs, or driving a truck or handling drugs I think it falls into the 'grass up' category.
Lots of if's here, just tell us!
I preseume that since you don't have that framework you are not a professional counselleor in which case I would sayy the above rule applies with impunity; if they intend to hurt themselves or others or commit a serious criminal act you have to grass them up (or get them to do it themselves).
If it just someone at work who is admitting have a problem which can affect their work but isn't dangerous (like stealing stuff) the obligation is moral and in your hands. If however they have a drugs problem and are operating JCBs, or driving a truck or handling drugs I think it falls into the 'grass up' category.
Lots of if's here, just tell us!
Brown and Boris said:
If you don't have a pre-agreemnet as most counselleors do, I would say that if the matter is one where someone will be sriously inured, killed , abused etc then the motal obligation is to act/disclose. Most counselloers make that clkear to clisnts before they start that if they admit X, Y or Z or say they are going to do A, B or C (like kill themselves or others) then you will tell the authorities.
I preseume that since you don't have that framework you are not a professional counselleor in which case I would sayy the above rule applies with impunity; if they intend to hurt themselves or others or commit a serious criminal act you have to grass them up (or get them to do it themselves).
If it just someone at work who is admitting have a problem which can affect their work but isn't dangerous (like stealing stuff) the obligation is moral and in your hands. If however they have a drugs problem and are operating JCBs, or driving a truck or handling drugs I think it falls into the 'grass up' category.
Lots of if's here, just tell us!
thanks for the advice. I am not a councellor, but work within the same kind of framework. Advice much appreciated.I preseume that since you don't have that framework you are not a professional counselleor in which case I would sayy the above rule applies with impunity; if they intend to hurt themselves or others or commit a serious criminal act you have to grass them up (or get them to do it themselves).
If it just someone at work who is admitting have a problem which can affect their work but isn't dangerous (like stealing stuff) the obligation is moral and in your hands. If however they have a drugs problem and are operating JCBs, or driving a truck or handling drugs I think it falls into the 'grass up' category.
Lots of if's here, just tell us!
Well my fathers GP wouldn't even contact the DVLA when he had been diagnosed with Dementia because he thought that his knowing that my dad was unsafe to drive was patient confidentiallity!
In the end a Police office had cause to speak to him and subsequently contacted the DVLA, who then instructed the GP to tell all, license revoked 4 weeks later.
I think that if you are being paid to do a job then the Health and Safety at work act will cover you for most things; if you can demonstrate protecting the public and our employees was required or relevant as a result of your work with your clients.
In the end a Police office had cause to speak to him and subsequently contacted the DVLA, who then instructed the GP to tell all, license revoked 4 weeks later.
I think that if you are being paid to do a job then the Health and Safety at work act will cover you for most things; if you can demonstrate protecting the public and our employees was required or relevant as a result of your work with your clients.
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