so who did they survey, come on own up.
so who did they survey, come on own up.
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Adrian W

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15,514 posts

257 months

ln1234

848 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Definately not me.

Can you imagine what would happen if they started charging for rubbish? My household of myself and the misses usually nets in about half of our wheelie bin full each week. On either side, we have rented accomodation with about 2 people living per room, and they usually have a couple of wheelie bins full of rubbish as well as some other bags on the side. I'm pretty sure we'll end up having a full bin and paying for it, even though the rubbish is not ours!

Monki

1,233 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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how would this work in a flat complex with communal bins?

Adrian W

Original Poster:

15,514 posts

257 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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I'd really like to see who said yes, maybe the survey was all council workers or binmen.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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ln1234 said:
Definately not me.

Can you imagine what would happen if they started charging for rubbish? My household of myself and the misses usually nets in about half of our wheelie bin full each week. On either side, we have rented accomodation with about 2 people living per room, and they usually have a couple of wheelie bins full of rubbish as well as some other bags on the side. I'm pretty sure we'll end up having a full bin and paying for it, even though the rubbish is not ours!
Thats the worry for me. Currently every now and then I'll notice someone has added a bag to our bin after I put it out. It's no big problem as our bin is normally 1/2 empty. But if I suddenly had to pay for it! How pissed off would I be!

okgo

42,139 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Fly tipping is already a problem, this won't help the cause.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

264 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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I think there'd be a lot of scorched wheelie bins.

RDE

5,037 posts

243 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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We already do pay for our rubbish to be taken away. It's called taxation.

Paying more for throwing away more = more fly tipping. More fly tipping = more cleaning up = more of your money spent(wasted). It won't happen, it's just Daily Mail-esque page-fodder.

OJ

14,209 posts

257 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Plenty of pointless civil servants will out of a job soon.

Simple, re-employ them as 'waste managers'. That way I can feel comfortable in the knowledge that my council tax that was once being pissed up the wall as some idiot's salary is now being constructively used for them to pick through all of my st/used johnny's/curry wrappers to sort out what needs to be recycled.

mouseymousey

2,642 posts

266 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Adrian W said:
I'd really like to see who said yes, maybe the survey was all council workers or binmen.
Probably just clever questioning to make sure they got the answer they wanted...

If you ask "should you have to pay to throw away more rubbish" people will say no, if you ask "should you pay less council tax if you throw away less rubbish?" people will say yes.

speedchick

5,288 posts

251 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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I would recycle more, if our council took more stuff that can be recycled. When they first started doing the collections it was great, we could put yogurt pots, marg tubs etc with the plastics and they also took fabric.

Now it's plastic bottles only, the other plastic has to go in the bin with normal rubbish, oh and they won't take the large biscuit/chocolate tins either, as apparently they are the wrong metal, so it's just baked bean and dog food tins now.

rev-erend

21,621 posts

313 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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They are just desperate campaigns to get away from the fact that they are running out of land fills and that re-cycling has not really been taken up by the packaging industry.

They only way out of their mess is for the givernment to force less fancy packaging and for it to be easily recycled. Like paper wrap instead of non recyclable plastic.

MrTom

868 posts

232 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Reading that article made me dig up this old 'Yes minister' video clip, It should explain the BBC's findings.

Surveys

Mr POD

5,153 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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RDE said:
We already do pay for our rubbish to be taken away. It's called taxation.

Paying more for throwing away more = more fly tipping. More fly tipping = more cleaning up = more of your money spent(wasted). It won't happen, it's just Daily Mail-esque page-fodder.
My Bil has a furnace. I'll get him to make me one. And all that plastic which my council won't and don't recycle and all the card board taht they don't either, will be burned with toxic fumes going into the atmosphere. That Leaves the Dog st bags - tesco bags. Instead of collecting my Dogs Pooh and putting it in my own bin, I'll just put it in the nearest post box. Then I can ask for a reduction in my rates as I don't have any rubbish.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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MrTom said:
Reading that article made me dig up this old 'Yes minister' video clip, It should explain the BBC's findings.

Surveys
Perfect.

kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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article said:
... but the survey showed 79% of women and 70% of men saying they should be rewarded financially if they create less waste and recycle more.

A much narrower majority - 55% of women and 50% of men - said it was only fair they should pay more if they throw away more.
I think that implies that whoever they asked wasn't very bright, since at least 20% of them contradicted themselves.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Mr POD said:
RDE said:
We already do pay for our rubbish to be taken away. It's called taxation.

Paying more for throwing away more = more fly tipping. More fly tipping = more cleaning up = more of your money spent(wasted). It won't happen, it's just Daily Mail-esque page-fodder.
My Bil has a furnace. I'll get him to make me one. And all that plastic which my council won't and don't recycle and all the card board taht they don't either, will be burned with toxic fumes going into the atmosphere. That Leaves the Dog st bags - tesco bags. Instead of collecting my Dogs Pooh and putting it in my own bin, I'll just put it in the nearest post box. Then I can ask for a reduction in my rates as I don't have any rubbish.
Illegal i'm believe. I think we're NOT allowed to burn anything that gives off black smoke. And plastic does. Of course it's very hard to see black smoke for almost 1/2 of every day.

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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kambites said:
article said:
... but the survey showed 79% of women and 70% of men saying they should be rewarded financially if they create less waste and recycle more.

A much narrower majority - 55% of women and 50% of men - said it was only fair they should pay more if they throw away more.
I think that implies that whoever they asked wasn't very bright, since at least 20% of them contradicted themselves.
A survey that indicates 20% of the population is a bit light on thinking.... Well I never.

Mars

10,114 posts

243 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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BBC said:
incentivise
Truly horrible word.


Anyway, shouldn't the retailers start cutting back on their packaging? I've seen no decrease since this was originally talked about some 2 decades ago (at least, that's as far back as I can remeber).

Our local supermarket has recycling points, so if the councils *do* start charging for us to throw, then I can see the recycling point and the local tip getting more of my business.

Skipppy

1,136 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th November 2008
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Monki said:
how would this work in a flat complex with communal bins?
I'd interested to hear that. I currently live in a complex of about 60 flats with a shed that houses 4 wheelie bins.