Baby P Dr. suspended
Discussion
Nolar Dog said:
ShadowNinja said:
Why? Serious question. What is a doctor's role wrt such cases?
According to the news report he (the Dr.) failed to spot that the baby had a broken spine.GreenDog said:
Nolar Dog said:
ShadowNinja said:
Why? Serious question. What is a doctor's role wrt such cases?
According to the news report he (the Dr.) failed to spot that the baby had a broken spine.If its proven he was negligent, he should be brought before the courts along with any others that can also be proven negligent for manslaughter. It is about time people took responsibility for there lack of action, forget not enough money, time etc. If people are not brought to book, no matter how many damn government enquiries we have the poor baby will have died for nought.
PHOENIXUK said:
If its proven he was negligent, he should be brought before the courts along with any others that can also be proven negligent for manslaughter. It is about time people took responsibility for there lack of action, forget not enough money, time etc. If people are not brought to book, no matter how many damn government enquiries we have the poor baby will have died for nought.
In cases of child welfare, much better to be criticised for something you have done instead of not done IMOpaoloh said:
In cases of child welfare, much better to be criticised for something you have done instead of not done IMO
Not always.I know of a couple who, let’s be honest, are not the sharpest tools in the box, nice enough but the offer of a night out with them would find me making my excuses.
Their first child is fairly obviously developing a lot slower than his peers. Their second has been in and out of hospital since he was born with this and that.
Anyway the youngest (once they became a toddler) was constantly getting bruises appear for no reason at all. They had consulted their GP about this but no answers were forthcoming. One day the child fell over and banged his head and so they rushed to the hospital, knowing that firstly he seems to be very easily injured and also that it was quite a hefty whack.
They get to A&E, explain all and are seen by the nurse there. The Police arrive with social services and their eldest is taken into care on the spot with the toddler being admitted.
The father is accused of beating the children, despite there being absolutely no evidence of anything of the sort other than a toddler who bruises easily who they have regularly taken to the GP.
Within hours the nurses at the hospital are starting to refuse to handle the toddler as every time one of them picks him up he bruises.
9 months later the couple are finally allowed to have their children back. The eldest has started to wet and s
t himself constantly and will not go out of the house alone such was the standard of care he received and no form of apology of any sort has been forthcoming.I have been to far too many case conferences to have much regard for a lot of members of social services. There are some excellent Social Workers out there, but they are far outweighed by their moronic, lentil knitting yogurt weaving colleagues who have all the theory, but none of the practice. Funny but guess which ones tend to be the best at their jobs? The clue is they have a 9 month lead into their lifetime of training…
rude-boy said:
paoloh said:
In cases of child welfare, much better to be criticised for something you have done instead of not done IMO
Not always.I know of a couple who, let’s be honest, are not the sharpest tools in the box, nice enough but the offer of a night out with them would find me making my excuses.
Their first child is fairly obviously developing a lot slower than his peers. Their second has been in and out of hospital since he was born with this and that.
Anyway the youngest (once they became a toddler) was constantly getting bruises appear for no reason at all. They had consulted their GP about this but no answers were forthcoming. One day the child fell over and banged his head and so they rushed to the hospital, knowing that firstly he seems to be very easily injured and also that it was quite a hefty whack.
They get to A&E, explain all and are seen by the nurse there. The Police arrive with social services and their eldest is taken into care on the spot with the toddler being admitted.
The father is accused of beating the children, despite there being absolutely no evidence of anything of the sort other than a toddler who bruises easily who they have regularly taken to the GP.
Within hours the nurses at the hospital are starting to refuse to handle the toddler as every time one of them picks him up he bruises.
9 months later the couple are finally allowed to have their children back. The eldest has started to wet and s
t himself constantly and will not go out of the house alone such was the standard of care he received and no form of apology of any sort has been forthcoming.I have been to far too many case conferences to have much regard for a lot of members of social services. There are some excellent Social Workers out there, but they are far outweighed by their moronic, lentil knitting yogurt weaving colleagues who have all the theory, but none of the practice. Funny but guess which ones tend to be the best at their jobs? The clue is they have a 9 month lead into their lifetime of training…
Would I take one family's misery over an unfounded accusation over a childs death??
scruffy said:
GreenDog said:
Nolar Dog said:
ShadowNinja said:
Why? Serious question. What is a doctor's role wrt such cases?
According to the news report he (the Dr.) failed to spot that the baby had a broken spine.rude-boy said:
paoloh said:
In cases of child welfare, much better to be criticised for something you have done instead of not done IMO
Not always.I know of a couple who, let’s be honest, are not the sharpest tools in the box, nice enough but the offer of a night out with them would find me making my excuses.
Their first child is fairly obviously developing a lot slower than his peers. Their second has been in and out of hospital since he was born with this and that.
Anyway the youngest (once they became a toddler) was constantly getting bruises appear for no reason at all. They had consulted their GP about this but no answers were forthcoming. One day the child fell over and banged his head and so they rushed to the hospital, knowing that firstly he seems to be very easily injured and also that it was quite a hefty whack.
They get to A&E, explain all and are seen by the nurse there. The Police arrive with social services and their eldest is taken into care on the spot with the toddler being admitted.
The father is accused of beating the children, despite there being absolutely no evidence of anything of the sort other than a toddler who bruises easily who they have regularly taken to the GP.
Within hours the nurses at the hospital are starting to refuse to handle the toddler as every time one of them picks him up he bruises.
9 months later the couple are finally allowed to have their children back. The eldest has started to wet and s
t himself constantly and will not go out of the house alone such was the standard of care he received and no form of apology of any sort has been forthcoming.I have been to far too many case conferences to have much regard for a lot of members of social services. There are some excellent Social Workers out there, but they are far outweighed by their moronic, lentil knitting yogurt weaving colleagues who have all the theory, but none of the practice. Funny but guess which ones tend to be the best at their jobs? The clue is they have a 9 month lead into their lifetime of training…
Its a very difficult area to work in due to implications of getting it wrong.
They are damned if they do damned if they don't.
I have many frustrations with the system (indeed the 9 month old child I took has gone back to the mum despite her being due in court for neglect) but I also understand that is an absolute minefield that many people are more than happy to negotiate after them but not with them.
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