Locks - Euro Profile Cylinder lock recommendation?

[Mag1calTrev0r]

A bit of a long shot this, but there's bound to be some knowledgeable person here to advise me.

I'm replacing the locks on my front & back door, they're currently Yale and I want/need better ones to meet the insurance companies requirements.

I was previously looking at the Yale X6 range but wondered if this is best one to go for?

I'd rather not have to pay the earth but if it means it's significantly better than I'm happy to invest.

So which lock do I buy and from where?

Thanks

[Ozzie Osmond]

IIRC all you change with euro locks is the slide-out key/cylinder mechanism and once you've got got ones with enough "pins" for the key mechanism (say 5 or 6) you're home and dry. Almost nobody suffers breakin by their locks being "picked". Most usually break-in is achieved by physical violence with the lock breaking out of the door or the door breaking out of the frame. So unless you significantly strengthen the physical side of things there's not much point spending silly money on a key/cylinder mechanism. Just go with something which meets insurers requirements.

[Mag1calTrev0r]

Thanks. You're right, it's just a very simple 'module' that gets replaced... it's sooooo easy!

It's really for peace of mind that I wanted to make sure that the lock itself was as secure as possible.

[Mag1calTrev0r]

Also, the insurance company specify 'a mortice deadlock with at least 5 levers'.

Now Euro Cylinder locks refer to 5 or 6 'pins', does the wording make a difference here? Does 5 pins = 5 levers?

[motco]

Do a Google on 'key bumping video' and watch carefully. A Euro lock can be opened with no evidence is literally one second!

[northwest monkey]

Hmmm - wouldn't be overly concerned about it being picked to be honest & as it's a Euro cylinder the OP is asking about I'm guessing its a UPVC door or similar so a mortice is irrelevant. The Yale's are great - I specify them for all my properties - the only thing to check is the length of the lock as you can get different sizes. Easy 10 min job though as long as you dont drop the fixing screws (put a sheet under the door!)

[.:ian:.]

There are (at least) 2 ways to compromise a euro lock, bumping and torque attack (where the lock is twisted until the whole thing rotates and unlocks the door) Look for one that has a high resistance to both, the ones that promise to resist torque attacks are designed to snap and leave the door locked.. not cheap though..

Edited by .:ian:. on Saturday 29th November 13:56

[Ozzie Osmond]

northwest monkey said:

the only thing to check is the length of the lock as you can get different sizes.)

Absolutely right. And some of the lengths are quite similar so you need to measure to the mm. although in fact if you get one that's "close but not quite" it might be OK. Check it.

[Mag1calTrev0r]

Cheers all. I've managed to remove the existing lock and then measured it accurately so I know exactly what I need. Now to find a decent place to by from !!!

I've done a Google search and it's proving difficult to find the item I'm looking for

[robinhood21]

Have you tried B&Q?

[Oldandslow]

I've used these guy a few times

www.safelocks.co.uk

[dickkark]

My house,garage,workshop and yard are secured intirely by mul-t-locks.
I have one key for all the locks at my house including the padlock for the back gate.
these locks are fantastic and approved and recommended by my insurers.
plus without the security card that they come with its impossible to duplicate them.
One look at the keys and you would get the idea.

[Mag1calTrev0r]

Oldandslow said:

I've used these guy a few times

www.safelocks.co.uk

Brilliant thanks

[Mag1calTrev0r]

robinhood21 said:

Have you tried B&Q?

I checked their in-store range but they didn't have much, mainly the cheaper end of the market and I couldn't be sure that it met the higher standards

[motco]

dickkark said:

My house,garage,workshop and yard are secured intirely by mul-t-locks.
I have one key for all the locks at my house including the padlock for the back gate.
these locks are fantastic and approved and recommended by my insurers.
plus without the security card that they come with its impossible to duplicate them.
One look at the keys and you would get the idea.

I had a selection of these locks from the UK importer when I was involved in security equipment wholesaling in the eighties. They are very secure locks - Israeli made - but we found the padlocks rusted solid at that time if left in full exposure to weather. It is likely that they have improved the corrosion protection now, of course.