Rip off train companies
Rip off train companies
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XB70

Original Poster:

2,494 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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Check the ticket price today to go to Bath tomorrow to collect a car - £24

Thieving scum but anyways....

Go to buy it and now £47....one way!!

I have absolutely no sympathy for these clowns - how are people supposed to be encouraged to move from cars to trains when you have this sort of nonsense.

I will pay it you bloodsucking lowlife cretins then sit, alone, in a gigantic gas gussling car and drive back to London.

Then, I am going to drive the same car to places I want to go instead of taking the train there and if I hear people moan about the environment and why I should use public transport, will use your stupid brochure as loo paper and throw it at them.

  • absolutely hopping mad*

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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XB70 said:
Check the ticket price today to go to Bath tomorrow to collect a car - £24

Thieving scum but anyways....

Go to buy it and now £47....one way!!

I have absolutely no sympathy for these clowns - how are people supposed to be encouraged to move from cars to trains when you have this sort of nonsense.

I will pay it you bloodsucking lowlife cretins then sit, alone, in a gigantic gas gussling car and drive back to London.

Then, I am going to drive the same car to places I want to go instead of taking the train there and if I hear people moan about the environment and why I should use public transport, will use your stupid brochure as loo paper and throw it at them.

  • absolutely hopping mad*
well more people are using trains, and they aren't cheap to run. So as long as demand is there, the prices will be.

havoc

33,377 posts

264 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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elster said:
well more people are using trains, and they aren't cheap to run. So as long as demand is there, the prices will be.
Tell me you're not THAT naive?!?

The TOC's know the cost of private transport, and set their prices accordingly. In addition, pretty much every stage down the chain is a private contractor who's going to make sure they get their pound of flesh out of the system...

In short, we probably have, per mile, the most expensive train network in the world, yet in terms of rolling stock (let alone reliability) is 2nd rate as compared to most of the rest of the Western World. Welcome to privatisation gone wrong...

XB70

Original Poster:

2,494 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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elster said:
XB70 said:
Check the ticket price today to go to Bath tomorrow to collect a car - £24

Thieving scum but anyways....

Go to buy it and now £47....one way!!

I have absolutely no sympathy for these clowns - how are people supposed to be encouraged to move from cars to trains when you have this sort of nonsense.

I will pay it you bloodsucking lowlife cretins then sit, alone, in a gigantic gas gussling car and drive back to London.

Then, I am going to drive the same car to places I want to go instead of taking the train there and if I hear people moan about the environment and why I should use public transport, will use your stupid brochure as loo paper and throw it at them.

  • absolutely hopping mad*
well more people are using trains, and they aren't cheap to run. So as long as demand is there, the prices will be.
I can accept that a product is expensive to run but when the price goes up 100% in two hours!!

They are just taking the P%%%

Switzerland is expensive for trains but you get what you pay for (stunning service....absolutely amazing actually) whereas here....good god

Just paid them - I though they wear a mask when robbing you???

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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havoc said:
elster said:
well more people are using trains, and they aren't cheap to run. So as long as demand is there, the prices will be.
Tell me you're not THAT naive?!?

The TOC's know the cost of private transport, and set their prices accordingly. In addition, pretty much every stage down the chain is a private contractor who's going to make sure they get their pound of flesh out of the system...

In short, we probably have, per mile, the most expensive train network in the world, yet in terms of rolling stock (let alone reliability) is 2nd rate as compared to most of the rest of the Western World. Welcome to privatisation gone wrong...
DO you know what the maintenance costs are...not the actual costs, but the ones charged on. My god they bought me my house in 2 years! I wasn't doing that much work either. SO yes it is damn expensive.

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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XB70 said:
Check the ticket price today to go to Bath tomorrow to collect a car - £24

Thieving scum but anyways....

Go to buy it and now £47....one way!!

I have absolutely no sympathy for these clowns - how are people supposed to be encouraged to move from cars to trains when you have this sort of nonsense.

I will pay it you bloodsucking lowlife cretins then sit, alone, in a gigantic gas gussling car and drive back to London.

Then, I am going to drive the same car to places I want to go instead of taking the train there and if I hear people moan about the environment and why I should use public transport, will use your stupid brochure as loo paper and throw it at them.

  • absolutely hopping mad*
If you book in advance it is cheaper. Where and when did you check the first price, then pay the new price?

I know booking first class London to Stafford is £38 in advance, but £125 on the day.

XB70

Original Poster:

2,494 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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around 5pm it was 24

booked about 2 hours later or so - 47

I appreciate that if I just walked up there tomorrow morning, then they would hit me for the full whack but the above is just daylight robbery.

I would be more inclined to use a train to see more of the UK but given the ongoing track work that seems to take place every Sunday (I want to see this feat of engineering that must equal the digging of the Panama Canal considering the cost and delays) but I am just going to hop into the car and drive there. £50 of fuel will get me about 280 miles which is a greater distance than London to Bath.



Edited by XB70 on Saturday 29th November 20:39

Alfa_75_Steve

7,489 posts

229 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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On the other hand, if you plan in advance, train tickets can be really cheap.

Booked tickets for my mum to come down from Manchester to South Wales for Christmas - total cost including post and booking fee was £24, return.

That's amazingly good value and a hell of a lot cheaper than doing it in the car.

The downside is that I had to book these tickets 2 months in advance and be very flexible over dates and times.

Allanv

3,540 posts

215 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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i had an interview in london some years back and the price on the train was £140 return no thats not a typo

took the car £20 return and £2 for the parking meter.

fk the public transport system.


XB70

Original Poster:

2,494 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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Simpo Two

92,746 posts

294 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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I know a financial bod in one of the train companies and he tells me that the fare increases are not set by them, but imposed on them by Govt.

If true, then it's rather like blaming the oil companies for the price of petrol.

mikechandler

1,998 posts

231 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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[quote=Alfa_75_Steve]On the other hand, if you plan in advance, train tickets can be really cheap.
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yes

Paid £38 yesterday for a ticket from Bodmin to Manchester. If I bought the ticket today it would have been £121.

Incorrigible

13,668 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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I've got a mate who lives in Bath, I haven't seen him for a bit. I'll give you a lift door to door for £45

Can't say fairer than that smile

Bing o

15,184 posts

248 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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Simpo Two said:
I know a financial bod in one of the train companies and he tells me that the fare increases are not set by them, but imposed on them by Govt.

If true, then it's rather like blaming the oil companies for the price of petrol.
IIRC, the government limit the rise of peak season tickets, so not the same at all...

XB70

Original Poster:

2,494 posts

225 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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Incorrigible said:
I've got a mate who lives in Bath, I haven't seen him for a bit. I'll give you a lift door to door for £45

Can't say fairer than that smile
Capitalism is alive and well I see!

Thanks but have paid them.....hopefully will be worth the trip!

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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Allanv said:
i had an interview in london some years back and the price on the train was £140 return no thats not a typo

took the car £20 return and £2 for the parking meter.

fk the public transport system.
I can beleive that, as I've done the trip from Stafford a few times. Not skilled enough yet to work out exactly what the best times/methods of ticketing are, but it can be done fairly cheaply. Book a week in advance and you can do it for chump change. As I mentioned above 1st class, 1 way, £38.

As with airlines, roll up at the airport the day you want to fly, buy a full fare ticket, and you'll pay through the nose. Book well in advance and you'll get it a lot cheaper.

bga

8,134 posts

280 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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XB70 said:
Switzerland is expensive for trains but you get what you pay for (stunning service....absolutely amazing actually) whereas here....good god

Just paid them - I though they wear a mask when robbing you???
I would say Switzerland is on a par with the UK for prices. Of course their network is much simpler than ours but trains are nicer and more punctual.

spikeyhead

20,422 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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King Herald said:
As with airlines, roll up at the airport the day you want to fly, buy a full fare ticket, and you'll pay through the nose. Book well in advance and you'll get it a lot cheaper.
Last year I fked up royally, got to the airport to fly sleazyjet to Munich to meet the gf there and found I'd booked t Milan frown

Arrived in Munich several hours later and with a very very large hole in the pocket.

It was a great shag though biggrin

oyster

13,737 posts

277 months

Saturday 29th November 2008
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XB70 said:
elster said:
XB70 said:
Check the ticket price today to go to Bath tomorrow to collect a car - £24

Thieving scum but anyways....

Go to buy it and now £47....one way!!

I have absolutely no sympathy for these clowns - how are people supposed to be encouraged to move from cars to trains when you have this sort of nonsense.

I will pay it you bloodsucking lowlife cretins then sit, alone, in a gigantic gas gussling car and drive back to London.

Then, I am going to drive the same car to places I want to go instead of taking the train there and if I hear people moan about the environment and why I should use public transport, will use your stupid brochure as loo paper and throw it at them.

  • absolutely hopping mad*
well more people are using trains, and they aren't cheap to run. So as long as demand is there, the prices will be.
I can accept that a product is expensive to run but when the price goes up 100% in two hours!!

They are just taking the P%%%

Switzerland is expensive for trains but you get what you pay for (stunning service....absolutely amazing actually) whereas here....good god

Just paid them - I though they wear a mask when robbing you???
Have you never booked a plane ticket???

sjg

7,677 posts

294 months

Sunday 30th November 2008
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When I went to pick up my current car, London to Tewkesbury on a saturday was about £18 first class as I booked in advance.

On the other hand, I had to go up to Wakefield for a meeting a few weeks ago, couldn't go off-peak so it worked out at £206 for a standard return!