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cazzer

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8,883 posts

277 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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My friend is looking at options if he gets made redundant in the near future.
He's looking a becoming a driving instructor with "The Instructor College". Does anyone have any dealings with them, or Red and know what it entails if its any good etc.


ta


Edited by cazzer on Monday 1st December 18:16

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Are they the ones who guarantee a job....?

If so, prepare for said job to be somewhere near the Outer Hebrides...


Tycho

12,275 posts

302 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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mybrainhurts said:
Are they the ones who guarantee a job....?

If so, prepare for said job to be somewhere near the Outer Hebrides...
and have to work 100hrs a week to meet the "great salary" oh, and also stump up a few grand for training....

sparks87

12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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You won't earn £30k without working 7 days a week, not after all your outgoings.

My old instructor, 4 years ago worked 45 hours + a week at £17 a lesson and his earnings after outgoings and before tax and NI were less than £20k

Edited by sparks87 on Monday 1st December 18:39

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

259 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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If something looks too good to be true...

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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These guys are one up from the nigerian 419 scammers. Atleast they don't have the cheek to advertise on TV.

Edit - These guys make their money from selling you the training. No one ever gets through the tests the first time and the chances of you earning anywhere near 30k are slim. Same with RED and most of the franchise driving places. The armys recruiting if your mates really stuck for cash. 16k a year apparently rolleyes.

Edited by richyb on Monday 1st December 18:49

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

263 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Is it not just a franchise? You pay up front for "training" and are basically self employed? THat's my assumption anyhows.

Bigdrift

1,566 posts

225 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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the word bargepole springs to mind , i had an interview for this lot it was going to cost me £3k to get my adi stuff and then work all the hours god sent to earn a decent wage , i would not bother mate

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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You have to know that once you do pay for the training and eventually pass you rent a vehicle and a franchise for them and they send you customer details. The only person who makes a profit is them.

sparks87

12,738 posts

242 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Become a bus driver instead, £20k minimum a year for 42 hours a week, not brilliant but quite good in comparison.

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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sparks87 said:
Become a bus driver instead, £20k minimum a year for 42 hours a week, not brilliant but quite good in comparison.
Depends how good your English is and what your customer service is like. If its st is both cases you'll be well in. tongue out

unclegrouch

388 posts

218 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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A mate of mine is an independant driving instructor & apparently most of them (independants) see the "franchises" as a bit of a joke. AFAIK it is simple a trainign course & leased car, all overpriced.

If you want his email to have a chat, pm me for it ;-)

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Training course is where they make their money. These things pop up whenever times are hard.

IIRC the pass rate for part 3 of your instructor training is something like 15%, certainly very low, so not many people become fully qualified instructors and able to operate alone of for more than 3 years.

2 mates of mine set up as independent instructors in 2006, 1 is currently doing well and has 2 people working for him but is still putting in c.50 hours on a normal week to get his earnings to a good wage (Not the £30k advertised though). The other is struggling by on 10 or so hours a week and is currently looking for another career.

7mike

3,214 posts

222 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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cazzer said:
My friend is looking at options if he gets made redundant in the near future.
He's looking a becoming a driving instructor with "The Instructor College". Does anyone have any dealings with them, or Red and know what it entails if its any good etc.


ta
Almost all ADIs are self employed so the first thing your friend should do is carry out some market research for his area just as you would before entering any new business venture. Then look at options for how to get the best & most cost effective training in order to pass the 3 part exams. Personally at this stage I would look for a local ORDIT (official register of driving instructors) registered trainer. The DSA can supply a list of these and most independents will offer training on a pay as you learn basis.

Captain Volvo

204 posts

228 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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I always fancied being a driving instructor so when i was 25 i gave it a go. I learnt with BSM and then tooke their car, pupils etc. It was a sort of franchise where they took a bit of money from me income for the car, office support, pupils etc....

I/BSM used to charge £17.50 per hour and I worked 17 hours for nothing each week. That's 17 hours of instruction - not total hours. Assuming you book 2 hour lessons and only have half an hour between them that's a couple of days nearly. Then you have 1,000 miles a week of fuel to buy - and that's before you put a penny in your own pocket.

I did it for a year (this was about 12 years ago) and realised that I was gradually starving to death and had no life outside of work. I guess the independents earn more but what about when you have a bump - do you have a spare car?

I loved the job but would only recommend anyone do it if it's something they really want to do and even then it'll only be for beer money unless you are prepared to work 24/7.

All IMO of course.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Monday 1st December 2008
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Sciroccology said:
If something looks too good to be true...
....It's Cliff Richard

mr_fibuli

1,109 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Always seems odd to me that these places are always advertising for instructors, yet you never see their cars on the road or any adverts for pupils - seems like their main business is selling instructor training.

I'd advise your mate to speak to the AA and BSM, compare the training costs and franchise fees offered by all the schools. I had a mate who did it for a couple of years though and he jacked it in in the end - to earn the headline £30k salary you are looking at 80+ hours a week including all the traveling between lessons time.

cazzer

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8,883 posts

277 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2008
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Thanks lads.....I'll pass the info on.