Damn political correctness
Damn political correctness
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tank slapper

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7,949 posts

312 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Just been reading about the Queen's speech tomorrow, and I noticed this section:

article said:
The Equality Bill for England, Wales and Scotland which aims to streamline laws on sex, race and religious discrimination, improve enforcement and allow political parties to use all-women shortlists until 2030.
Exactly how allowing the use of something that is inherently discriminatory promoting equality? I don't want an MP purely because she is a woman. I want someone who is going to be good at their job. I don't care if they are male or female.

Edit - quote from here

Edited by tank slapper on Wednesday 3rd December 02:18

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

260 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
I propose personifying a new moniker....Retrosexual, to be applied in full-on Sean Connery womanizing style; who is with me?!? biggrin

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 3rd December 02:25

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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More and more reason to vote these imbeciles out of office next election.

thehawk

9,335 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Women are unarguably inferior to white males, as are many minorities and ethnic groups.

That's the clear message that this positive discrimination sends to me. It's almost a bizarre reverse reinforcement of Nazi beliefs.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
That is the biggest load of bull twaddle ever.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
That is the biggest load of bull twaddle ever.
Why? Whenever i tick one of those 'equal opportunities' boxes on an application form, is it ever going to benefit me? Of course it wont, it can only hurt my chances.

The world seems to have gone mad - trying to encourage political parties for example to have more black candidates - that is racism, but its ok because they are a minority.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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tomTVR said:
Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
That is the biggest load of bull twaddle ever.
Why? Whenever i tick one of those 'equal opportunities' boxes on an application form, is it ever going to benefit me? Of course it wont, it can only hurt my chances.

The world seems to have gone mad - trying to encourage political parties for example to have more black candidates - that is racism, but its ok because they are a minority.
That's right. I forgot. I'm sure all those Sudanese refugees are sitting there, watching their families get hacked to death going "well, thank god I'm not earning a comfortable living in a safe job, not being targetted for how I look, having my worst fear as being got by a gatso and generally having a pretty easy go of life"

Must put their pseudo suffering really into perspective.

Oh, and I'm a middle class white male fwiw

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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They aren't being hacked to death in the UK though. IN the UK, positive discrimination is here, and is in use, as shown by this bill regarding 'racial equality'... As such ticking that box isn't going to do him any favours, whereas it will help the others.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Blue Meanie said:
They aren't being hacked to death in the UK though. IN the UK, positive discrimination is here, and is in use, as shown by this bill regarding 'racial equality'... As such ticking that box isn't going to do him any favours, whereas it will help the others.
We've had a pretty good run of things though.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
That is the biggest load of bull twaddle ever.
Why? Whenever i tick one of those 'equal opportunities' boxes on an application form, is it ever going to benefit me? Of course it wont, it can only hurt my chances.

The world seems to have gone mad - trying to encourage political parties for example to have more black candidates - that is racism, but its ok because they are a minority.
That's right. I forgot. I'm sure all those Sudanese refugees are sitting there, watching their families get hacked to death going "well, thank god I'm not earning a comfortable living in a safe job, not being targetted for how I look, having my worst fear as being got by a gatso and generally having a pretty easy go of life"

Must put their pseudo suffering really into perspective.

Oh, and I'm a middle class white male fwiw
What in Gods blazers has that got to do with anything? Its a black on black war.

Edited by tomTVR on Wednesday 3rd December 04:14

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
Blue Meanie said:
They aren't being hacked to death in the UK though. IN the UK, positive discrimination is here, and is in use, as shown by this bill regarding 'racial equality'... As such ticking that box isn't going to do him any favours, whereas it will help the others.
We've had a pretty good run of things though.
That does not make it right...

thehawk

9,335 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
Blue Meanie said:
They aren't being hacked to death in the UK though. IN the UK, positive discrimination is here, and is in use, as shown by this bill regarding 'racial equality'... As such ticking that box isn't going to do him any favours, whereas it will help the others.
We've had a pretty good run of things though.
What's that got to do with anything?

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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tomTVR said:
Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
That is the biggest load of bull twaddle ever.
Why? Whenever i tick one of those 'equal opportunities' boxes on an application form, is it ever going to benefit me? Of course it wont, it can only hurt my chances.

The world seems to have gone mad - trying to encourage political parties for example to have more black candidates - that is racism, but its ok because they are a minority.
That's right. I forgot. I'm sure all those Sudanese refugees are sitting there, watching their families get hacked to death going "well, thank god I'm not earning a comfortable living in a safe job, not being targetted for how I look, having my worst fear as being got by a gatso and generally having a pretty easy go of life"

Must put their pseudo suffering really into perspective.

Oh, and I'm a middle class white male fwiw
What in Gods blazers has that got to do with anything? Its a black on black war.

Edited by tomTVR on Wednesday 3rd December 04:14
It was a tongue in cheek comment. There seems to be a common approach amongst a certain type of person to make out that my group is the most disadvantaged and unfortunate in the history of the world.

When in reality that is complete bullocks.

How is it any different to accepted practice in most businesses to employ the son of someone in your old boys network?

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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thehawk said:
Colonial said:
Blue Meanie said:
They aren't being hacked to death in the UK though. IN the UK, positive discrimination is here, and is in use, as shown by this bill regarding 'racial equality'... As such ticking that box isn't going to do him any favours, whereas it will help the others.
We've had a pretty good run of things though.
What's that got to do with anything?
Basically that the sky is not falling, there will still be jobs, the old boys network will still exist. It is not the end of civilisation as we know it.

It's happened in the US, and the only people complaining are late middle aged middle management types who have only risen to the middle through being a smarmy suck up. Good riddance to 'em.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
thehawk said:
Colonial said:
Blue Meanie said:
They aren't being hacked to death in the UK though. IN the UK, positive discrimination is here, and is in use, as shown by this bill regarding 'racial equality'... As such ticking that box isn't going to do him any favours, whereas it will help the others.
We've had a pretty good run of things though.
What's that got to do with anything?
Basically that the sky is not falling, there will still be jobs, the old boys network will still exist. It is not the end of civilisation as we know it.

It's happened in the US, and the only people complaining are late middle aged middle management types who have only risen to the middle through being a smarmy suck up. Good riddance to 'em.
Nobody said the sky is falling. Nobody said there won't be jobs, and nobody said it was the end of civilisation. What t is the end of is any chance of real equality.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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But there wasn't real equality to start with. And there never will be.

No matter what is proposed there will be one group in society who is disadvantaged/advantaged more than another. Be it officially or unofficially.

Edited by Colonial on Wednesday 3rd December 04:23

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
But there wasn't real equality to start with.
Again, nobody said there was. However, mollycoddling sections of society is not going to bring that about. What we need is a society based on merit, not skin colour, or ethnicity, or who you happen to fk, or whether you happen to get around on crutches, or wheels. By bringing in legislation that in a nutshell will demand quotas, (otherwise how on earth is it monitored), you are placing higher value on one section, over another, for those very same reasons it is pretending to try to stop. It is cul-de-sac logic, and will get nowhere.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
No matter what is proposed there will be one group in society who is disadvantaged/advantaged more than another. Be it officially or unofficially.
Which is worse? officially or unofficially sanctioned discrimination?

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Colonial said:
tomTVR said:
Welcome to the new world we live in. I am a healthy white hetrosexual male aged 18-49 which puts me in the most discriminated against category.
That is the biggest load of bull twaddle ever.
Why? Whenever i tick one of those 'equal opportunities' boxes on an application form, is it ever going to benefit me? Of course it wont, it can only hurt my chances.

The world seems to have gone mad - trying to encourage political parties for example to have more black candidates - that is racism, but its ok because they are a minority.
That's right. I forgot. I'm sure all those Sudanese refugees are sitting there, watching their families get hacked to death going "well, thank god I'm not earning a comfortable living in a safe job, not being targetted for how I look, having my worst fear as being got by a gatso and generally having a pretty easy go of life"

Must put their pseudo suffering really into perspective.

Oh, and I'm a middle class white male fwiw
What in Gods blazers has that got to do with anything? Its a black on black war.

Edited by tomTVR on Wednesday 3rd December 04:14
It was a tongue in cheek comment. There seems to be a common approach amongst a certain type of person to make out that my group is the most disadvantaged and unfortunate in the history of the world.

When in reality that is complete bullocks.

How is it any different to accepted practice in most businesses to employ the son of someone in your old boys network?
That sort of stuff is going to happen, thats life. But with everyone banging on about equality and equal opportunities and then drawing up an all-women shortlist to try and achieve that goal, i do hope the irony isnt lost. What if there was a man who was far morse suited to particular role than anyone else but couldnt even apply? All in the name of preventing discrimination - what a laughable state of affairs. These PC maniacs are just going to tie themselves in knots eventually.