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nick s

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1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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after a bit of advice. this is an interesting one! Basically, i have been made redundant as of the end of this month. My director, (the one responsible) is a straight talking guy, and will tell you exactly what he thinks. I have been told i will be getting my pay and any monies owed to me by cheque on my last day. Now i have am 80% sure that he is going to try and dock some of this money from me, and try and tuck me up (holiday money, bonus etc) becaus ehe has done it before to people and he's the sort of person who doesn't care about p*ssing people off and this company is EXTREMELY tight like that.
Now the interesting bit. Unknown to him, I can remotely access his work e-mail account, and i have found out that he is having an affair!!! he is married with kids, but is having a full blown affair with a woman from another office. they have been sending each other rude pictures and dirty messages, meeting up, pretending to be going out on business and going to hotels etc. So much evidence. Now my dilemma, When he calls me into his office on my last day to give me my cheque, if he f*cks me over, what do i say? do i mention the fact i have it all printed off, with loads of evidence and that i will forward it to his wife if he doesn't pay me all my money, or is that unwise? what would you guys do or say if it came to that? opinions...]

Edited by nick s on Wednesday 3rd December 14:13

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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What's the sentence for blackmail....?

chunkymonkey71

13,169 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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An eye for an eye!

fk him RIGHT over!!!

Then wish him a merry christmas!

barney123

495 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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nick s said:
after a bit of advice. this is an interesting one! Basically, i have been made redundant as of the end of this month. My director, (the one responsible) is a straight talking guy, and will tell you exactly what he thinks. I have been told i will be getting my pay and any monies owed to me by cheque on my last day. Now i have am 80% sure that he is going to try and dock some of this money from me, and try and tuck me up (holiday money, bonus etc) becaus ehe has done it before to people and he's the sort of person who doesn't care about p*ssing people off and this company is EXTREMELY tight like that.
Now the interesting bit. Unknown to him, I can remotely access his work e-mail account, and i have found out that he is having an affair!!! he is married with kids, but is having a full blown affair with a woman from another office. they have been sending each other rude pictures and dirty messages, meeting up, pretending to be going out on business and going to hotels etc. So much evidence. Now my dilemma, When he calls me into his office on my last day to give me my cheque, if he f*cks me over, what do i say? do i mention the fact i have it all printed off, with loads of evidence and that i will forward it to his wife if he doesn't pay me all my money, or is that unwise? what would you guys do or say if it came to that? opinions...
Might have been an idea, had you not mentioned it on an internet forum ?? Blackmail and all ?

Edit : Actually, sod that, why not 'ask' for your job back ?

Edited by barney123 on Wednesday 3rd December 14:12

BMWBen

4,906 posts

230 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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You'll do time for breaking the computer misuse act. That's what I reckon..

wainy

800 posts

272 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Interesting...

Well if he does try and get one over on you then I would fight it through the proper channels. If you can still access his account can you not forward these emails to his wife (she should have an email address you can find)! or the rest of the office from his computer.

Blackmail is probably not the best option.

nick s

Original Poster:

1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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fair point, i was worried about that hence why i asked! maybe i won't mention a thing then just annonymously get my revenge if he does tuck me up afterwards smile

barney123

495 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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BMWBen said:
You'll do time for breaking the computer misuse act. That's what I reckon..
Boss does not need to know how he knows ????

nick s

Original Poster:

1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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barney123 said:
BMWBen said:
You'll do time for breaking the computer misuse act. That's what I reckon..
Boss does not need to know how he knows ????
exactly, he doesnt need to know how i got access or how i know, for all he knows someone could have given the printouts to me!

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Quality, sounds better than the kid trying to fight me at work.

Got any pics of her is she worth it?

Sorry for the inane post whatsyerface.

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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barney123 said:
BMWBen said:
You'll do time for breaking the computer misuse act. That's what I reckon..
Boss does not need to know how he knows ????
If I were the boss I'd ask for proof that this guy knows anything....you'd find out where his info came from then..

wainy

800 posts

272 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Oh and if you do send on the emails after he tries to get one over do it from an internet cafe or somewhere else (not your own home) I am sure if needed the IT bods could trace where it was accessed from.

nick s

Original Poster:

1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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wainy said:
Oh and if you do send on the emails after he tries to get one over do it from an internet cafe or somewhere else (not your own home) I am sure if needed the IT bods could trace where it was accessed from.
we don't have an It department! relatively small company. But yeah i wouldn't do it from home anyway.

Also, to answer someone elses question, if he asked for proof i wouldn't show him any. It'd worry him eough to believe me. my main question really is if he does try a tuck me up, should i mention it there and then in the hope he pays me in full to shut me up, or do i just accept it and get my revenge?

Badgerboy

1,794 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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You've blatently misused the power given to you in regards to accessing confidential information. If I knew who you were, I would never employ you.

I was to do anything like that, I'd never work in my field again. You are also setting yourself up for a major fall legally if they decide to pursue it.

Edited by Badgerboy on Wednesday 3rd December 14:20

nick s

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1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Badgerboy said:
You've blatently misused the power given to you in regards to accessing confidential information. If I knew who you were, I would never employ you.

I was was to do anything like that, I'd never work in my field again. You are also setting yourself up for a major fall legally.
i haven't been given that power. I'm just good with computers and worked out myself how to access anyone in the companies mail via the internet! he doesn't have a clue i can see any of it.

i was worried of the legal implications, hence why i asked for advice!

Edited by nick s on Wednesday 3rd December 14:20

Badgerboy

1,794 posts

221 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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nick s said:
Badgerboy said:
You've blatently misused the power given to you in regards to accessing confidential information. If I knew who you were, I would never employ you.

I was was to do anything like that, I'd never work in my field again. You are also setting yourself up for a major fall legally.
i haven't been given that power. I'm just good with computers and worked out myself how to access anyone in the companies mail via the internet! he doesn't have a clue i can see any of it.

i was worried of the legal implications, hence why i asked for advice!

Edited by nick s on Wednesday 3rd December 14:20
Basically you have compromised a company IT system, which is therefore grounds for dismissal. If he plays hardball with you, you will be out on your arse with NOTHING. It's likely you'll get your fingers burnt doing this. Is your boss a particulary vindictive man?

nick s

Original Poster:

1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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Badgerboy said:
nick s said:
Badgerboy said:
You've blatently misused the power given to you in regards to accessing confidential information. If I knew who you were, I would never employ you.

I was was to do anything like that, I'd never work in my field again. You are also setting yourself up for a major fall legally.
i haven't been given that power. I'm just good with computers and worked out myself how to access anyone in the companies mail via the internet! he doesn't have a clue i can see any of it.

i was worried of the legal implications, hence why i asked for advice!

Edited by nick s on Wednesday 3rd December 14:20
Basically you have compromised a company IT system, which is therefore grounds for dismissal. If he plays hardball with you, you will be out on your arse with NOTHING. It's likely you'll get your fingers burnt doing this. Is your boss a particulary vindictive man?
yes, very vindictive. but surely if i've worked the days and accrued the holiday he has to pay it to me?

Scamper

732 posts

251 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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nick if he does you over just send the evidence to his missus and the other womans husband ( if she has one)

after all he has to prove it was you right??

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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nick s said:
Badgerboy said:
nick s said:
Badgerboy said:
You've blatently misused the power given to you in regards to accessing confidential information. If I knew who you were, I would never employ you.

I was was to do anything like that, I'd never work in my field again. You are also setting yourself up for a major fall legally.
i haven't been given that power. I'm just good with computers and worked out myself how to access anyone in the companies mail via the internet! he doesn't have a clue i can see any of it.

i was worried of the legal implications, hence why i asked for advice!

Edited by nick s on Wednesday 3rd December 14:20
Basically you have compromised a company IT system, which is therefore grounds for dismissal. If he plays hardball with you, you will be out on your arse with NOTHING. It's likely you'll get your fingers burnt doing this. Is your boss a particulary vindictive man?
yes, very vindictive. but surely if i've worked the days and accrued the holiday he has to pay it to me?
Yep,and that's really the line to go down....blackmail can get you very hurt....

nick s

Original Poster:

1,372 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2008
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esselte said:
nick s said:
Badgerboy said:
nick s said:
Badgerboy said:
You've blatently misused the power given to you in regards to accessing confidential information. If I knew who you were, I would never employ you.

I was was to do anything like that, I'd never work in my field again. You are also setting yourself up for a major fall legally.
i haven't been given that power. I'm just good with computers and worked out myself how to access anyone in the companies mail via the internet! he doesn't have a clue i can see any of it.

i was worried of the legal implications, hence why i asked for advice!

Edited by nick s on Wednesday 3rd December 14:20
Basically you have compromised a company IT system, which is therefore grounds for dismissal. If he plays hardball with you, you will be out on your arse with NOTHING. It's likely you'll get your fingers burnt doing this. Is your boss a particulary vindictive man?
yes, very vindictive. but surely if i've worked the days and accrued the holiday he has to pay it to me?
Yep,and that's really the line to go down....blackmail can get you very hurt....
cool, advice taken, i don't want to get in trouble for blackmailing. I'll just send it to his wife then if he does stitch me up! cheers guys