Gmac Mortgages - Good or Bad ?
Gmac Mortgages - Good or Bad ?
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jcwuk

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1,127 posts

225 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Has Anyone got a Gmac Mortgage ?

We have a deal with them on one of our properties and just wondered if anyone has had any experiences of them good or bad ?



JRM

2,065 posts

261 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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jcwuk said:
Has Anyone got a Gmac Mortgage ?

We have a deal with them on one of our properties and just wondered if anyone has had any experiences of them good or bad ?
I used to have and they were fine, but I think they are trying to reduce their book of business as the new interest rates are huge

Mr Fenix

863 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I've heard of them, and from what I understand their lending criteria are quite relaxed. As in the person I know who got the mortgage lied his balls off and they failed to check up the details.

Romanymagic

3,298 posts

248 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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More terrifying than you can imagine, a bit like finding yourself in a swimming lake and suddenly a great white shark turns up, and you look down in the frosty depths to see the great big grey fish with mega teeth swimming below you, honestly your best out of the lake.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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You know GMAC-RFC is General Motors Auto Corporation right?
They aren't having a great time right now.

jcwuk

Original Poster:

1,127 posts

225 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Romanymagic said:
More terrifying than you can imagine, a bit like finding yourself in a swimming lake and suddenly a great white shark turns up, and you look down in the frosty depths to see the great big grey fish with mega teeth swimming below you, honestly your best out of the lake.
What happened in your experience ?

fflyingdog

621 posts

268 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I"m with GMAC and to be fair they have ben fine ,but then again i have never had to test them,recently recieved a letter from them saying that my mortgage is now with the Skipton,so i guess they are off loading to make their accounts look better.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Mr Fenix said:
I've heard of them, and from what I understand their lending criteria are quite relaxed. As in the person I know who got the mortgage lied his balls off and they failed to check up the details.
Hey, sub prime mortgages. We've never got in trouble with those before.

Edited by Colonial on Friday 5th December 04:19

fflyingdog

621 posts

268 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Not sub prime just self employed for the last 28 years ,catch 22 need accounts that look good for a mortgage company and accounts that look less ok for the tax man.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Sorry, see edit. Was directed at a particular post.

fflyingdog

621 posts

268 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Ok ,fair point

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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fflyingdog said:
Ok ,fair point
Yeah, forgot to hit the quote button on that one, so completly my fault.

Understand where you are coming from on that one.

Mr Fenix

863 posts

234 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I can see both sides of the argument for sub prime self employed bods who need books which reflect solidly with the Mortgage company and at the same time show less than stellar numbers for the HMRC to ponder over.

The person I know who "cooked the books" hasn't had many if any problems so far, mostly because he's paid the mortgage on time but my IFA friend in the UK tells me new regs are coming in which will allow "higher powers" to select and audit applicants self cert details. I sincerely hope he gets caught and the book along with the library is thrown at him !

cjs

11,655 posts

280 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Gmac are sharks. Be very careful and read the small print of any agreement you sign. A friend recently got out of a mortgage by the skin of his teeth, he had to sell his house at £50k less than it was worth or they would have repossessed it. They would not renegotiate his deal even though he could have afforded to pay a sensible rate.

He was on 4.5% above the Libor rate!!

If he missed a payment they would go to court for repossession. This would cost him a £1k charge. When he got in arrears they let him re mortgage to increase the loan to pay the monthly repayment! He borrowed £180k and ended up owing them £260k.

He sold his house for £280k. They even took £10k off him as early redemption penalty. They are nasty.

He is now renting.

BTW he was self employed when he needed the "dodgy" mortgage, it was the only way he could get the house he wanted. His work started to dry up and he got in trouble.

Be very careful and make sure you can afford the repayments.



jcwuk

Original Poster:

1,127 posts

225 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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The interest rate at the moment with them is actually quite good and touch wood so far we have had a good relationship with them but must admit, friends have not had such good things to say about them.


cjs

11,655 posts

280 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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jcwuk said:
The interest rate at the moment with them is actually quite good and touch wood so far we have had a good relationship with them but must admit, friends have not had such good things to say about them.
As long as you can afford to make the repayments they are fine. Just don't miss one!

Matt Harper

7,032 posts

230 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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cjs said:
As long as you can afford to make the repayments they are fine. Just don't miss one!
That sounds pretty much like every other mortgage provider then - or have I got it wrong and there are banks that shrug their shoulders and say "Whatever", when you default on your side of the contract.



Edited by Matt Harper on Friday 5th December 18:48

Slaav

4,370 posts

239 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Mr Fenix said:
I can see both sides of the argument for sub prime self employed bods who need books which reflect solidly with the Mortgage company and at the same time show less than stellar numbers for the HMRC to ponder over.

The person I know who "cooked the books" hasn't had many if any problems so far, mostly because he's paid the mortgage on time but my IFA friend in the UK tells me new regs are coming in which will allow "higher powers" to select and audit applicants self cert details. I sincerely hope he gets caught and the book along with the library is thrown at him !
I may have misunderstood your point above, but this is going on already! Every lender, even on Self Cert, reserves the right to go to full status and ask for accounts etc if they want to. Compliance checks and FSA checks are very wary of S/C deals and loans.

jcwuk

Original Poster:

1,127 posts

225 months

Saturday 6th December 2008
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Matt Harper said:
cjs said:
As long as you can afford to make the repayments they are fine. Just don't miss one!
That sounds pretty much like every other mortgage provider then - or have I got it wrong and there are banks that shrug their shoulders and say "Whatever", when you default on your side of the contract.

Very Good Point.

Got to Say Gmac so far have been very good - Just our point !
Friends have had issues with them but so far so good.


Edited by jcwuk on Saturday 6th December 03:27