How to Rob a Bank
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Neil_H

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15,418 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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BBC 3 now:

"Documentary telling the story of Lee Barnes, a student who took the banks at their word and helped himself to 40,000 pounds of their credit in just over a year. Lee shows how he got away with it, how he went on the run and how finally he decided to give himself up. The big question now is whether he does or does not go bankrupt."

Apparently has a nicely topical credit crunch theme, so obviously it's going to be the bank's fault.

bexd

120 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Im watching this now, im a university student and its unbelievable how much money you can get so easily, lots of my friends have multiple student accounts and overdrafts they need someone to shock them into realising how long it will take to pay back, especially if its hard to get a job after finishing university.

Bsmithmilne

228 posts

229 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I like the way they blame the banks for it all, I thought it was him spending the money, they should of never given him so much credit but in my eyes he put himself into that debt not the banks

I did what he did but only for about £5k paid it back with in 12 months I only got about £9k a year at that time, you just have to realise what you have done and fix it quick.

The only way to stop this happening is to teach people how to manage money when they get jobs and about credit, I thought it was great on my 18th got a 3k overdraft and a 2k credit card just spent it all on booze good times.

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Saw the last 10 mins of it. The prick with the 30k debt was clueless. "No one sat me down and made it clear about what I was doing". tt. When you go to a restaurant do you want the waiter to sit down and explain the possible outcome of your meal and if your sure you want it? Do you want a taxi driver to negotiate with you about where you want to go? No you don't because your an adult and you make your own mind up. These tossers want to blame anyone but themselves. If you can't pay it back then don't borrow it and tip it down your neck. Muppets.

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

241 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Didnt watch it, what was it? tell multiple banks you will pay your student loan in to them, get big overdrafts on them all and max them out?

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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richyb said:
These tossers want to blame anyone but themselves.
Welcome to modern Britain.

It's the governments fault, or the 'greedy bankers' fault, or the councils fault - not the retard on the other end of the credit facility.

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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shouldbworking said:
Didnt watch it, what was it? tell multiple banks you will pay your student loan in to them, get big overdrafts on them all and max them out?
Basically but then they complain the banks made it so easy for them to borrow so are to blame. They failed to mention the students lying to the banks inorder to get all these accounts though.

sm0273

888 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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richyb said:
shouldbworking said:
Didnt watch it, what was it? tell multiple banks you will pay your student loan in to them, get big overdrafts on them all and max them out?
Basically but then they complain the banks made it so easy for them to borrow so are to blame. They failed to mention the students lying to the banks inorder to get all these accounts though.
Wrong. They mentioned it very clearly. On more than one occasion.

richyb

4,615 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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sm0273 said:
richyb said:
shouldbworking said:
Didnt watch it, what was it? tell multiple banks you will pay your student loan in to them, get big overdrafts on them all and max them out?
Basically but then they complain the banks made it so easy for them to borrow so are to blame. They failed to mention the students lying to the banks inorder to get all these accounts though.
Wrong. They mentioned it very clearly. On more than one occasion.
Not in the 10 mins I saw of it.

Neil_H

Original Poster:

15,418 posts

280 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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What was worse was this guy wasn't even going to lectures! He was sitting at home doing feck all. I could almost forgive him if he'd ended up with a degree but he's now working in a pub.

TW@

I could see it would end up being the banks fault - "On the same day the government put together a billion pound rescue package, we managed to get £500 in student overdrafts" - hmm, relevant....

Celt

1,264 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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I didnt see this hopefully it will be on iPlayer.

Although the banks dont lose over little things like that. And even with this credit crunch I still see ma majority of bankers keeping there jobs and an hell of alot of money.

sm0273

888 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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richyb said:
sm0273 said:
richyb said:
shouldbworking said:
Didnt watch it, what was it? tell multiple banks you will pay your student loan in to them, get big overdrafts on them all and max them out?
Basically but then they complain the banks made it so easy for them to borrow so are to blame. They failed to mention the students lying to the banks inorder to get all these accounts though.
Wrong. They mentioned it very clearly. On more than one occasion.
Not in the 10 mins I saw of it.
Well it's a bit silly to say they never mentioned it when you hardly seen any of the program.

Clammy

2,352 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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sm0273 said:
Well it's a bit silly to say they never mentioned it when you hardly seen any of the program.
They did skip over the fact that the odious little prick knew full well what he was doing was illegal but egged on by his pisshead pack mates carried on anyway.

If it were a tracksuit drone from some estate defrauding banks to the tune of £40k for an 8 month lash up they'd be facing prison and public indignation. Noncy little drama school boy gets his own one man performance act and a television show allowing him to shovel blame every which way bar right.

Shaw Tarse

31,888 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th December 2008
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Celt said:
I didnt see this hopefully it will be on iPlayer.

Although the banks dont lose over little things like that. And even with this credit crunch I still see ma majority of bankers keeping there jobs and an hell of alot of money.
It's on again now.

OzzyR1

6,366 posts

261 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I couldn't believe that "loophole" he found.

For those who didn't see it, basically one in five shop transactions (store dependant) didn't have to be verified by the bank - not sure if its changed now.

He would go into Spar and buy a couple of packs of fags and get £50-60 cashback - and would do this up to 5 times a day in this one shop!! He had realised that this place didn't need the bank check that other stores did and even though he was up to his £1,500 overdraft limit on the card it allowed him to withdraw £29,000 via the cashback system!!

Still can't figure why they didn't stop the card way before this with so many transactions in the same place every day for months.

cardigankid

8,879 posts

241 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Of course it was his fault, I think even he admitted that, but I recall when I was a student and opened my first bank account, it was like meeting Himmler, and they only gave me a cheque book after I had the account open for a while.

What they are criticizing the banks for is giving people huge amounts of credit without the slightest diligence, and they are right to.

I don't think that anyone is questioning that the borrower was an irresponsible gonad. As it happens he reminded me of Georgie Best in a spooky way.

allgonepetetong

1,188 posts

248 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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richyb said:
sm0273 said:
richyb said:
shouldbworking said:
Didnt watch it, what was it? tell multiple banks you will pay your student loan in to them, get big overdrafts on them all and max them out?
Basically but then they complain the banks made it so easy for them to borrow so are to blame. They failed to mention the students lying to the banks inorder to get all these accounts though.
Wrong. They mentioned it very clearly. On more than one occasion.
Not in the 10 mins I saw of it.
WTF?

sm0273

888 posts

219 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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OzzyR1 said:
I couldn't believe that "loophole" he found.

For those who didn't see it, basically one in five shop transactions (store dependant) didn't have to be verified by the bank - not sure if its changed now.

He would go into Spar and buy a couple of packs of fags and get £50-60 cashback - and would do this up to 5 times a day in this one shop!! He had realised that this place didn't need the bank check that other stores did and even though he was up to his £1,500 overdraft limit on the card it allowed him to withdraw £29,000 via the cashback system!!

Still can't figure why they didn't stop the card way before this with so many transactions in the same place every day for months.
Because they never noticed.

Clammy said:
They did skip over the fact that the odious little prick knew full well what he was doing was illegal but egged on by his pisshead pack mates carried on anyway.
well they all knew they were lying to the banks...

emicen

9,236 posts

247 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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I think what annoyed me the most was the constant bleating over the top of it all being the banks fault for allowing it to happen to this poor little lamb and the repetition of it being "our money, the tax payers money" they were now giving away.

It was always our money you muppets, thats what they do with your deposits, lend them out for return, or was there an actual belief all the money people had in their savings was actually held in a Scrooge McDuck style money bin.

Horse_Apple

3,795 posts

271 months

Friday 5th December 2008
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Neil_H said:
BBC 3 now:

"Documentary telling the story of Lee Barnes, a student who took the banks at their word and helped himself to 40,000 pounds of their credit in just over a year. Lee shows how he got away with it, how he went on the run and how finally he decided to give himself up. The big question now is whether he does or does not go bankrupt."

Apparently has a nicely topical credit crunch theme, so obviously it's going to be the bank's fault.
To be honest, if you gave a retard a gun and he then, rather unsurprisingly, shot himself or someone with it, it would be your fault, not the retards.

To defend the banks, it is unlikely that you would suspect an individual in higher education to be a retard.