effnig i-pod / i-tunes
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roboxm3

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2,485 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Can someone recommend me a free software download that will enable me to drag and drop files from any pc onto my i-pod nano and avoid the fking ste that is bd i-tunes!?

I know it's been discussed on here before but the PH search function seems to be at loggerheads with i-tunes for tonights biggest piss boiler.

Many thanks

Edited by roboxm3 on Sunday 7th December 00:20

Grant76

1,381 posts

234 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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What's wrong with i-tunes mate?

I really like it

roboxm3

Original Poster:

2,485 posts

224 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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All of my music was on another PC, which I no longer have access to; no big deal, all of my music is on the i-pod, I'll just sync it with the PC I do have access to and upload what's on there too....

You can't!!....well not within the 5 mins patience I have and I just want to drag and drop, microsoft / old school stylee!

Edited by roboxm3 on Sunday 7th December 00:23

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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dear, dear dear me... Another person who gets more angry at the application, than their own ability. I'd help yu, but alas you cannot be bothered to help yourself...


On second thought, You no longer have the library with your music on that was your main depository.... Erm, how did you go about that? Oh wait, tell me you have no backups either. Changing to another computer is a doddle, and has been discussed here. Someone will be along to tell you tyo get this software, or that software, but all you have to do is drag your music folder to an external drive, and move it to your new computer. Authorise the computer, and import the music. Job done. Instead you decide you can't be bothered doing any of that, despite iTunes asking if you want to back up whenever you either rip a cd, or make a purchase.

go ahead.. Blame iTunes if it makes you feel better.

ipwn

2,920 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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I don't understand people who can't use itunes.

It is such a simple bloody process.

What can't you grasp about the software? I cannot physically not grasp how to use the software.

It's just so simple confused

A poor workman always blames his tools wink

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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ipwn said:
I don't understand people who can't use itunes.

It is such a simple bloody process.

What can't you grasp about the software? I cannot physically not grasp how to use the software.

It's just so simple confused

A poor workman always blames his tools wink
I know.. It's so bloody simple!

ipwn

2,920 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Blue Meanie said:
ipwn said:
I don't understand people who can't use itunes.

It is such a simple bloody process.

What can't you grasp about the software? I cannot physically not grasp how to use the software.

It's just so simple confused

A poor workman always blames his tools wink
I know.. It's so bloody simple!
And to top it off, Apple is well known for its simple interfaces and ergonomics hehe

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Everything is in one folder. That is ONE. How hard is it to either back it up, or move the bloody thing?

V6

3,781 posts

250 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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itunes is EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Helpful post 1001

The Dude

6,546 posts

276 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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While your iPod is connected, scroll down the Summary page and check the box that says "Manage music manually".

It really is that easy, no need to get into a flap.



Edited by The Dude on Sunday 7th December 02:00

heebeegeetee

30,140 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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I think itunes is absolutely st, but then again i do prefer getting on with a life instead of sitting in front of a pc all day.

I've got 400gigs of music. I have a 30 gig ipod. I want to put 30 gigs of music on the ipod. My laptop, where i have itunes loaded, only has a 30 gig hard drive. Obviously if i put 30gig of music on the laptop i can't do anything else with it.

I have another pc that has a 500 gig hard drive, but its not the C drive.

Why do i want itunes? Why can't i simply drag and drop like i used to with the iRiver and Creative doo-dads i had in the past. Why do i even want itunes at all? I don't. Why do i have to give my credit card number to a company that i'm not going to but anything from? Why do I have to back up my music on the same drive as itunes (which in case i didn't mention, i don't want itunes at all, i just want music on a player). I don't want listings, and playlists and 'Genius' or whatever its called, and i don't want to buy another laptop.

When people say itunes is brilliant, they forget that for many people it has no purpose. Why do you want to list music that is already listed? Why list it again?

I regret that Apple has secured the portable player market so thoroughly. I haven't checked recently, but whenever i've looked to see if iriver or creative has produced a good alternative, they haven't. Its probably fair to say the ipod is the best player, but what do i want itunes cluttering up my laptop for?

thehawk

9,335 posts

236 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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heebeegeetee said:
I think itunes is absolutely st, but then again i do prefer getting on with a life instead of sitting in front of a pc all day.

I've got 400gigs of music. I have a 30 gig ipod. I want to put 30 gigs of music on the ipod. My laptop, where i have itunes loaded, only has a 30 gig hard drive. Obviously if i put 30gig of music on the laptop i can't do anything else with it.

I have another pc that has a 500 gig hard drive, but its not the C drive.

Why do i want itunes? Why can't i simply drag and drop like i used to with the iRiver and Creative doo-dads i had in the past. Why do i even want itunes at all? I don't. Why do i have to give my credit card number to a company that i'm not going to but anything from? Why do I have to back up my music on the same drive as itunes (which in case i didn't mention, i don't want itunes at all, i just want music on a player). I don't want listings, and playlists and 'Genius' or whatever its called, and i don't want to buy another laptop.

When people say itunes is brilliant, they forget that for many people it has no purpose. Why do you want to list music that is already listed? Why list it again?

I regret that Apple has secured the portable player market so thoroughly. I haven't checked recently, but whenever i've looked to see if iriver or creative has produced a good alternative, they haven't. Its probably fair to say the ipod is the best player, but what do i want itunes cluttering up my laptop for?
So what's your point?

Why do I want music that is already listed (by the file system I'm presuming)? For the same reason I use a GUI instead of a command line. It's a layer that most people want. i certainly don't want to just rely on my own memory of 400GB of music and just have it sitting there in a folder, I want something to make it easier to browse, search, make playlists etc.




Edited by thehawk on Sunday 7th December 02:52

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Simple... tell iTunes that your library is the hard drive where your 400gb of music is. Then, you can create a simple playlist with the 30gb or so music you want on your iPod. Job done. It is no different than drag and drop.

As for wanting something to list it... not sure what your problem is. You pick what you want to play, and play it. You pick what you want on youtr ipod, and play it. because you do not quite understand what you want, doesn't mean it is not good. If you don't like it, get rid of the iPod and get something else.

Not sure what sitting in front of a PC has to do with anything.

Edited by Blue Meanie on Sunday 7th December 02:51

heebeegeetee

30,140 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Blue Meanie said:
Simple... tell iTunes that your library is the hard drive where your 400gb of music is. Then, you can create a simple playlist with the 30gb or so music you want on your iPod. Job done. It is no different than drag and drop.
I tried that, quite some time ago now. When it wouldn't work and i put my life on hold trying to find out why it wouldn't work, (which i didn't have to do with the previous players) i was told by the itunes geeks at the time that itunes really doesn't like it if the music is not on the C drive, and that has been my experience.

Why do i have to create another playlist, no matter how simple? Why can't i simply copy the folders from the 400gig hd onto the ipod itself and have the music listed in the same way as it is on the hd? That was all i had to do with the previous players i used.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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heebeegeetee said:
Blue Meanie said:
Simple... tell iTunes that your library is the hard drive where your 400gb of music is. Then, you can create a simple playlist with the 30gb or so music you want on your iPod. Job done. It is no different than drag and drop.
I tried that, quite some time ago now. When it wouldn't work and i put my life on hold trying to find out why it wouldn't work, (which i didn't have to do with the previous players) i was told by the itunes geeks at the time that itunes really doesn't like it if the music is not on the C drive, and that has been my experience.

Why do i have to create another playlist, no matter how simple? Why can't i simply copy the folders from the 400gig hd onto the ipod itself and have the music listed in the same way as it is on the hd? That was all i had to do with the previous players i used.
To change the location of the iTunes target folder... preferences > advanced and change the location in there. The problem is that that drive may be getting dissconnected all the time, but that's the price of having 400gb. However, I have an itunes folder on my time capsule, and it is used quite happily to my other macbook.

Why do you have to create another playlist? Well, how is it any different to dragging and dropping to a drive? You have a playlist entitled 'Fusspots playlist', and whatever music you want in there you 'drag and drop'... Then sync that playlist. It;s no different to what you want to do. If you want to change it, then delete what you don't want, then drag in new stuff. I can't see how that is any different.


heebeegeetee

30,140 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Blue Meanie said:
To change the location of the iTunes target folder... preferences > advanced and change the location in there. The problem is that that drive may be getting dissconnected all the time, but that's the price of having 400gb. However, I have an itunes folder on my time capsule, and it is used quite happily to my other macbook.

Why do you have to create another playlist? Well, how is it any different to dragging and dropping to a drive? You have a playlist entitled 'Fusspots playlist', and whatever music you want in there you 'drag and drop'... Then sync that playlist. It;s no different to what you want to do. If you want to change it, then delete what you don't want, then drag in new stuff. I can't see how that is any different.
One of the problems with itunes is that you ask a question and then you can't understand the answer. What's a time capsule?

Yes, the 400gig hd is not permanently connected, its a separate drive where i keep the music. Why do i need to copy the music onto the laptop, why can't i simply have the music on my 400hd and my ipod?

I'm not interested in computers enough to be able to understand this answer. Yes, i could devote time to learning enough to understand this answer, but at the end of the day I only want to listen to some music.

I think it's fair to say that this answer encapsulates everything that's wrong with itunes.


Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Time capsule = wireless hard drive.

Edited by Blue Meanie on Sunday 7th December 03:24

heebeegeetee

30,140 posts

277 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Blue Meanie said:
Sorry.. Not gonna help you.
Thank fk for that. Saves me going to another forum.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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I answered your question. I also showed how you were the problem, not the software. When you make a playlist, it doesn't copy anything on the laptop harddrive, it merely points to the relevent tracks/albums on the external drive.

Edited by Blue Meanie on Sunday 7th December 03:33

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th December 2008
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Transferring files is fairly easy if you're managing it yourself, I quite like some of the smart playlist ideas so I can exclude artists or tracks that are less than say 3 minutes

What I object to is the stupid way it indexes everything. If your music is stored on an external HDD for example, a few hundred gig takes about 3 days for Itunes to say it's OK or convert WMA to what it likes

And it wont take FLAC so you need to encode that into something else