Any locksmiths about? Help required
Any locksmiths about? Help required
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LaserTam

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2,183 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Hope someone on here might be able to help. I have in internal bedroom door with a mortice latch. Yesterday I pulled the door shut and it was a bit hard to shut. However, now I cant open the door, turn the handle and the latch doesn't seem to be retracting into the mechanisim. I have removed the handle and the spindle but can't see a way of retracting the latch.

So, the only option I can see is to either kick the door down, or more likely remove the architrave from the door frame and try with a credit card to push the latch back into the mechanisim.

Is are there any other ways of doing it?
Thanks in advance.

Edited by LaserTam on Monday 8th December 10:23

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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LaserTam said:
Hope someone on here might be able to help. I have in internal bedroom door with a mortice latch. Yesterday I pulled the door shut and it was a bit hard to shut. However, now I cant open the door, turn the handle and the latch doesn't seem to be retracting into the mechanisim. I have removed the handle and the spindle but can't see a way of retracting the latch.

So, the only option I can see is to either kick the door down, or more likely remove the architrave from the door frame and try with a credit card to push the latch back into the mechanisim.

Is are there any other ways of doing?
Thanks in advance.
Slip a credit card in the gap, wiggle it, and all is well. Works in all the movies. thumbup

Seriously though, you might be able to work the latch back with a screw driver or a couple of sharp implements if you have enough gap to get in.

Landlord

12,689 posts

286 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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OK.

Smooth the palms of your hands around the perimiter of the door. Do this whilst standing with your feet slightly more than shoulder width apart, knees slightly bent. Then, when you feel the "point" - you'll know it instinctively - give it a short, sharp thump with the ball of your hand (the bit where it meets your wrist). Voila, the door will slowly open.

This definitely works, I've seen the Fonz do it.

The Riddler

6,565 posts

226 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Landlord said:
OK.

Smooth the palms of your hands around the perimiter of the door. Do this whilst standing with your feet slightly more than shoulder width apart, knees slightly bent. Then, when you feel the "point" - you'll know it instinctively - give it a short, sharp thump with the ball of your hand (the bit where it meets your wrist). Voila, the door will slowly open.

This definitely works, I've seen the Fonz do it.
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TWSTEEL

1,099 posts

218 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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If it was hard to close you might have a tight fit against the keep plate. The bolt might be withdrawing but just catching the edge of the keep plate. You can risk wrecking the lock by getting a good bit of leverage on the square shaft with the handle off and a good wrench against that with simultaneous pressure on the door might do the trick. Easier to replace the lock than havin the door/frame repaired if you try and burst it open.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

276 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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How did you get in here and what do you do?

I'm a locksmith and erm I'm a locksmith.

LaserTam

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2,183 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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TWSTEEL said:
If it was hard to close you might have a tight fit against the keep plate. The bolt might be withdrawing but just catching the edge of the keep plate. You can risk wrecking the lock by getting a good bit of leverage on the square shaft with the handle off and a good wrench against that with simultaneous pressure on the door might do the trick. Easier to replace the lock than havin the door/frame repaired if you try and burst it open.
Unfortunately I tried that, I think the handle of the other side was restricting how much leverage I could put on it! And no I can't get into the bedroom though a window, they are all locked!

LaserTam

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248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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B17NNS said:
How did you get in here and what do you do?

I'm a locksmith and erm I'm a locksmith.
eh?

mel

10,168 posts

304 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I've got a choice of 2 mental images here.

1: Poor sod wearing just a towel locked out of his bedroom and contemplating turning up late for work wearing his kids clothes and his gradening shoes.

2: Bloke with match sticks holding his eyes open turning to PH in desperation as he hasn't been to bed all night and has been sat on the landing trying everything he could think of to get into the bedroom

16v of fury

9,168 posts

214 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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i know its a silly idea, but surely every guy has always wanted to kick a door through?
Is it worth it? are doors expensive? would the cost outweigh that"drugbust door kickdown feeling?"

when you do it are you going to shout FREEZE! and make gun shapes with your hands?

TWSTEEL

1,099 posts

218 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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If the door stop that the door edge sits against is nailed on the you can prise it open at the lock point and slide a hacksaw blade in to cut through the brass bolt - other than that you might have to split the timber at that point to do the same. Probably less risky than trying to burst open as at least you can see/limit the damage you're doing on your side of the door.

LaserTam

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2,183 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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mel said:
I've got a choice of 2 mental images here.

1: Poor sod wearing just a towel locked out of his bedroom and contemplating turning up late for work wearing his kids clothes and his gradening shoes.

2: Bloke with match sticks holding his eyes open turning to PH in desperation as he hasn't been to bed all night and has been sat on the landing trying everything he could think of to get into the bedroom
smile funny. Luckily, neither. Its a spare room which neither me or the mrs need to get into for a few days. All the Christmas presents are in there though, so I am on a time line!

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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LaserTam said:
B17NNS said:
How did you get in here and what do you do?

I'm a locksmith and erm I'm a locksmith.
eh?
Think about it, the internet isn't the best place to be giving out advice on how to open doors/locks is it!?

16v of fury

9,168 posts

214 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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well now you have a good enough reason, it is your duty to free the presents. "THINK OF THE CHILDREN...THE CHILDREN!!"

LaserTam

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2,183 posts

248 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
LaserTam said:
B17NNS said:
How did you get in here and what do you do?

I'm a locksmith and erm I'm a locksmith.
eh?
Think about it, the internet isn't the best place to be giving out advice on how to open doors/locks is it!?
An internal bedroom door? Really? Front door, or car door, then yep I'm totally with you. Its not even a locked door, its just a latched mortice.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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LaserTam said:
Mc Lovin said:
LaserTam said:
B17NNS said:
How did you get in here and what do you do?

I'm a locksmith and erm I'm a locksmith.
eh?
Think about it, the internet isn't the best place to be giving out advice on how to open doors/locks is it!?
An internal bedroom door? Really? Front door, or car door, then yep I'm totally with you. Its not even a locked door, its just a latched mortice.
Its the same princeable isnt it, regardless of if its an external door or internal, the procedures are probably similar, its all help for the lurking scally...

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

224 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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DYNAMITE

16v of fury

9,168 posts

214 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Hoppy2008 said:
DYNAMITE
woohoo

hoppys got the right idea, get it on youtube boss


GTIR

24,741 posts

295 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Have you tried levering the door from the bottom then try the top?
As has already been said the latch may be stuck and if you can move the door just a fraction it might work.

mgtony

4,213 posts

219 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Now you've got the handle off, pull the square bar towards you so it comes out of the handle on the other side, try turning it now as the other handle wont be resticting how much it can turn. This should work unless the latch is actually broke. Otherwise as others have said, ease off the door stop and slide in a knife or size 10 boot.biggrin