Any shipping experts in the house?
Any shipping experts in the house?
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Bushmaster

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27,581 posts

308 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Was exploring a little jungle-covered islet the other day, as you do, and came across some massive ship anchors abandoned and overgrown. They were the old-fashioned traditional type, not modern anchors. Bit later after scrambling up a cliff I found myself in an abandoned and overgrown cemetery, with moss-covered gravestones gradually being consumed by the forest. Some of the graves had English names, dates in the mid 1800s and the name of a shipping company - the Pacific Steam Navigation Company. I didn't hang around as it was a bit spooky!

Anyway, does anybody know where I could find out about the shipping company, it would be interesting to research it. According to some fishermen on a neighbouring island it was an English company. They seem to have left quite a few of their employees behind on the island.

Any ideas?

cheers.





o.versteer

3,338 posts

258 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Have you tried the obvious?

Davel

8,982 posts

287 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Pacific Steam Navigation Company - from the Shipslist site

Formed in London in 1838, the company commenced operations on the West Coast of South America in 1840. In 1852 they were granted the British Government Mail contract to the area. In 1877 a joint P.S.N.Co-Orient Line service to Australia was started and lasted until 1905 when P.S.N.Co sold their Australian route interests to Royal Mail S.P.Co. In 1910 P.S.N.Co itself, was taken over by Royal Mail S.P.Co but continued to operate as a separate company within the group, although ships were often transferred between the two companies. In 1931 the Royal Mail group collapsed, but P.S.N.Co was allowed to continue operations under the control of it's creditors until it discharged it's financial obligations. In 1938 Royal Mail (now Royal Mail Lines) again took control of P.S.N.Co but again kept the two organisations separate. Furness Withy took over the Royal Mail / PSNC group in 1965 and ships were frequently switched between different companies within the group. By 1984 the name of Pacific Steam Navigation Co disappeared into Furness Withy Shipping.

Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. The following list was extracted from various sources. This is not an all inclusive list but should only be used as a guide. If you would like to know more about a vessel, visit the Ship Descriptions (on-site) or the Immigrant Ship web site.

Routes:

1843-1923 Valparaiso - Coastal Ports - Callao
1846-1923 Valparaiso - Callao - Guayaquil - Panama
1848-1923 Valparaiso - South Chilean Ports (terminal: Puerto Montt)
1868-19?? Liverpool - Bordeaux - Lisbon - Cape Verde - Rio de Janeiro - Montevideo - Punta Arenas - Valparaiso (from 1870) - Arica - Mollendo - Callao.
1877-1879 Liverpool - Bordeaux - Buenos Aires.
1904-1920 Liverpool - La Pallice - Corunna - Vigo - Lisbon - Recife - Salvador - Rio de Janeiro - Montevideo - Buenos Aires - Port Stanley - Punta Arenas - Coronel - Talcahuano - Valparaiso.
1914-1945 Cristobal - Panama Canal - Champerico.
1920-1930 New York - Panama Canal - Callao - Valparaiso.
1920-1931 New York - Guayaquil.
1920-1959 Liverpool - Bermuda - Bahamas - Havana - Jamaica - Panama Canal - West Coast of South America ports - Valparaiso.
1920-1937 Montevideo - Port Stanley (Falkland Islands)
1955-1970 Bermuda - Caribbean ports - Panama.
1956-1963 (REINA DEL MAR) Liverpool - La Pallice - Santander - Corunna (1961 Vigo) - Bermuda - Nassau - Havana - Kingston - La Guaira - Curacao - Cartagena - Panama Canal - La Libertad - Callao - Arica - Antofagasta - Valparaiso.
1963- Cargo services to Caribbean and South American ports.

Bushmaster

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27,581 posts

308 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Davel said:
Pacific Steam Navigation Company - from the Shipslist site

Formed in London in 1838, the company commenced operations on the West Coast of South America in 1840. In 1852 they were granted the British Government Mail contract to the area. In 1877 a joint P.S.N.Co-Orient Line service to Australia was started and lasted until 1905 when P.S.N.Co sold their Australian route interests to Royal Mail S.P.Co. In 1910 P.S.N.Co itself, was taken over by Royal Mail S.P.Co but continued to operate as a separate company within the group, although ships were often transferred between the two companies. In 1931 the Royal Mail group collapsed, but P.S.N.Co was allowed to continue operations under the control of it's creditors until it discharged it's financial obligations. In 1938 Royal Mail (now Royal Mail Lines) again took control of P.S.N.Co but again kept the two organisations separate. Furness Withy took over the Royal Mail / PSNC group in 1965 and ships were frequently switched between different companies within the group. By 1984 the name of Pacific Steam Navigation Co disappeared into Furness Withy Shipping.

Many thanks to Ted Finch for his assistance in collecting this data. The following list was extracted from various sources. This is not an all inclusive list but should only be used as a guide. If you would like to know more about a vessel, visit the Ship Descriptions (on-site) or the Immigrant Ship web site.

Routes:

1843-1923 Valparaiso - Coastal Ports - Callao
1846-1923 Valparaiso - Callao - Guayaquil - Panama
1848-1923 Valparaiso - South Chilean Ports (terminal: Puerto Montt)
1868-19?? Liverpool - Bordeaux - Lisbon - Cape Verde - Rio de Janeiro - Montevideo - Punta Arenas - Valparaiso (from 1870) - Arica - Mollendo - Callao.
1877-1879 Liverpool - Bordeaux - Buenos Aires.
1904-1920 Liverpool - La Pallice - Corunna - Vigo - Lisbon - Recife - Salvador - Rio de Janeiro - Montevideo - Buenos Aires - Port Stanley - Punta Arenas - Coronel - Talcahuano - Valparaiso.
1914-1945 Cristobal - Panama Canal - Champerico.
1920-1930 New York - Panama Canal - Callao - Valparaiso.
1920-1931 New York - Guayaquil.
1920-1959 Liverpool - Bermuda - Bahamas - Havana - Jamaica - Panama Canal - West Coast of South America ports - Valparaiso.
1920-1937 Montevideo - Port Stanley (Falkland Islands)
1955-1970 Bermuda - Caribbean ports - Panama.
1956-1963 (REINA DEL MAR) Liverpool - La Pallice - Santander - Corunna (1961 Vigo) - Bermuda - Nassau - Havana - Kingston - La Guaira - Curacao - Cartagena - Panama Canal - La Libertad - Callao - Arica - Antofagasta - Valparaiso.
1963- Cargo services to Caribbean and South American ports.
Blimey, I knew PH would come up trumps, cheers.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Or google, other search engines are aavailable.

Bushmaster

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27,581 posts

308 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Mc Lovin said:
Or google, other search engines are aavailable.
Why google when PH is better and faster? smile

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

274 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Bushmaster said:
Why google when you can get someone on PH to do it better and faster? smile
EFA hehe

shirt

25,403 posts

230 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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was this recce part of yor treasure hunt bushmaster? any joy so far?