Barristers Caught Red-Handed
Barristers Caught Red-Handed
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BOR

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5,146 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Not what you expect from the upholders of law. How much do these s want ? Yes, I know, "more" is the answer.

So why aren't they in jail ?

The Guardian said:
The black economy is normally associated with dodgy builders or painters and decorators. But white collar professionals are increasingly fiddling taxes, according to an MPs' report today that discloses that 36 barristers have been forced to return £605,000 to tax authorities. Hundreds of thousands of pounds have been recovered from lawyers, surgeons, medical consultants, and landlords under private deals with the tax authorities.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/dec/09/tax...

That reminds me, where's Soovy go to ?

OJ

14,209 posts

257 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Notice that there are no accountants in that list!

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

228 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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OJ said:
Notice that there are no accountants in that list!
Notice also it came from the Guardian, the Daily Mail and Telegraph reports on Labour MP's fiddling expenses, they report on Tory voters avoiding Tax.

JagLover

46,756 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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OJ said:
Notice that there are no accountants in that list!
angel

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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angel too

Or maybe accountants are just cleverer at hiding things smile?

Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 9th December 11:25

o.versteer

3,338 posts

258 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Is it possible that accountants just don't get caught? biggrin

mechsympathy

58,641 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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BOR said:
Not what you expect from the upholders of law.
roflNext you'll be saying that MPs don't fiddle their expenses wink

Strangely Brown

15,722 posts

260 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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It's not surprising given the amount that high earners are raped in this country.

dibbers006

14,640 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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mechsympathy said:
BOR said:
Not what you expect from the upholders of law.
roflNext you'll be saying that MPs don't fiddle their expenses wink
Yeah, they fiddle their secretary's and nannies! laugh

smilerbaker

4,071 posts

244 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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hmmm hardly a great fiddle is it, 17k each, having been through a tax audit myself, and been presented with a bill of a few k, even though I had done everything by the book, my accountant advised me to pay as his fee's for arguing would be more then the tax man was asking for (at the tax inspecter knew this), its just another stealth tax.

Eric Mc

125,609 posts

294 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Basic rule about the economy - the higher the taxes - the more likely that the black economy will grow.

I am convinced that part of Ireland's success in the 1990s was the massive REDUCTION in business related taxes and a general amnesty given for unpaid taxes up to 1987.

The black economy suddenly coughed up billions.

Labour, of course, are singularly unable to understand this basic fact about how economies work.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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BOR said:
How much do these s want ? Yes, I know, "more" is the answer.
Do I detect I hint of jealousy in your post?

JagLover

46,756 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Eric Mc said:
Labour, of course, are singularly unable to understand this basic fact about how economies work.
Indeed

and tax rates will therefore shortly be going up for many of these professionals.

JagLover

46,756 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
For many of these professionals it is not so much a 'scheme' that can be allowed or not it is a matter of interpretation (Hence the high accountancy fees in dealing with an investigation).

The personal use of assets may be challenged, or the accounting estimates used in the accounts.

BOR

Original Poster:

5,146 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Neil_H said:
Do I detect I hint of jealousy in your post?
More a sense of disappointment that people already earning six-figure salaries don't pay their share of the tax burden that those on lower income PAYE are paying.

scotal

8,751 posts

308 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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BOR said:
Neil_H said:
Do I detect I hint of jealousy in your post?
More a sense of disappointment that people already earning six-figure salaries don't pay their share of the tax burden that those on lower income PAYE are paying.
Have you moved back from Germany then BOR?

Zod

35,295 posts

287 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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BOR said:
Neil_H said:
Do I detect I hint of jealousy in your post?
More a sense of disappointment that people already earning six-figure salaries don't pay their share of the tax burden that those on lower income PAYE are paying.
But I pay a HIGHER proportion of my income in tax than a person on the average salary or even on half the average salary.

You just need to get hit by a car and wake up in your own Life on mars scenario, so that you can glory in the socialist paradise of the 1970s.

Tom55

704 posts

237 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Zod said:
BOR said:
Neil_H said:
Do I detect I hint of jealousy in your post?
More a sense of disappointment that people already earning six-figure salaries don't pay their share of the tax burden that those on lower income PAYE are paying.
But I pay a HIGHER proportion of my income in tax than a person on the average salary or even on half the average salary.

You just need to get hit by a car and wake up in your own Life on mars scenario, so that you can glory in the socialist paradise of the 1970s.
I think he's referring to tax that should have been paid but wasn't, and given the deals made, sounds like those that didnt pay it knew it too, besides if your worried about paying a higher share then you could always charge less, earn less and wouldnt have to worry about your tax burden so much, simple

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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I think the OP has been reading too many tabloids.

The actual story relates to BtL landlords not paying the required tax on their income. It's hardly a surprise that the people who are landlords are in professions that pay well, is it?

Might as well have put up a headline saying "Brickies Caught Red-Handed", as they're just as likely to work for cash in hand and avoid tax.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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Chris_w666 said:
OJ said:
Notice that there are no accountants in that list!
Notice also it came from the Guardian, the Daily Mail and Telegraph reports on Labour MP's fiddling expenses, they report on Tory voters avoiding Tax.
List of names, please, and voting habits...

Or did you make that up...?

Edited by mybrainhurts on Tuesday 9th December 13:15