Fence height question
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rlw

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3,585 posts

266 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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I am under the impression, possible wrongly, that the highest fence you can erect around your property, without planning permission, is 2 meters. If this is not so, then collect £200 and return to Go.

There is a bit of bad feeling between our neighbours at out cottage in Wadebridge. The previous owner of the cottage has moved next door, up the hill, and has put a small hanging window (can't think of the proper name) in the side of what is now his kitchen. He has planning permission for it so all is OK but the neighbour next door down the hill has complained about being overlooked etc etc, all to no avail. You can see into their garden from the window but nobody is sitting there with a telephoto lens waiting to catch some indiscreet pruning as far as I m aware.

The neighbour down the hill has now planted a large area of bamboo, a eucalyptus tree and other assorted greenery to screen the garden. None of this really affects us as we have an enormous honeysuckle screening us from the lower parts of the new planting. BUT......

At the end of the garden, where we have a low wall and a view over open countryside, they have now put up a couple of fancy panels/screens, call them what you like, that are probably around 2 meters high on our side but are more like 3 meters or more high on their side, such is the difference in the levels of the properties. We don't get down there a lot at the moment so we were a bit surprised to see these additions during our last visit. We are a bit pissed off at losing the open view in the garden and having two naff panels dominating the end of the garden.

The question is, are they legally allowed to erect panels 3 meters high without planning permission in this situation? We are going to bring it up with them anyway over the Christmas period (Oh Joy!) but I would like a some insight into the legalities of it so, if it is allowed, we adopt a different approach than we might otherwise.

At the end of the day, I don't want to fall out with the neighbours but I would have liked to have been consulted before they, in effect, took away about two linear meters, two meters high from my view of the world. Equally, if we fall out with them at least we wont have to go for drinks or dinner anymore, or have everything we do discussed by the town for weeks.

singlecoil

35,830 posts

275 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Worst 'I own a second home in Cornwall' thread ever

NDA

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254 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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I believe it is 2 meters that is allowed without planning - measured from his side.

It might be worth having a look at his deeds, you can do this online via the land registry - it would cost £3 - it could be the case that he has covenants in place that don't allow him to do things which might upset the neighbours.

Ganglandboss

8,546 posts

232 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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The laws vary depending on where you live but generally it is 2 metres between properties and 1 metre onto a public road. Have a look on your LA's planning website.

NDA

25,606 posts

254 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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Ganglandboss said:
The laws vary depending on where you live but generally it is 2 metres between properties and 1 metre onto a public road. Have a look on your LA's planning website.
Correct and yer tiz

"A wall or fence that's built or changed to over 2m (6.6ft) high must also have express planning permission.

Boundaries can be built up to 2m (6.6ft) if they're at the back of the garden or if the boundary is at the side, but if the boundary fronts a highway of any kind it mustn't exceed 1m (3.3ft) without first getting express planning permission."


Re-reading the OP, it would seem that although the fence is 'only' 2m on your side, it's over the permitted height on theirs. Which is where the measurement would be taken.....

Edited by NDA on Sunday 21st December 15:08

vinnie83

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222 months

Sunday 21st December 2008
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I always thought 6 feet, but that may be because whoever told me got confused between 6 feet and 2 metres... anything higher requires planning permission doesn't it?

Regardless, 3 metres is definately too high - if it were me I'd be asking them to remove it, as it's interfering with your view, and if they get funny about it, report them to the planning department

rlw

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266 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Thanks guys - thats very helpful.

And I have read far worse I've got a second home in Cornwall threads too....

Mr POD

5,153 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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My brother in law recently had to explain to his neighbour that whilst they may have planning permission to build an extension over their own garage, they, don't have his permission to knock use his garage wall and as the boundary is 2 inches on the other side of the wall, they should re-apply for planning permission, placing the foundations and wall on thier side of the boundary.
He also explained that one more use of the F word, and he'd request that the roof supports of the neighbours garage be removed from the top of his wall.

Strange how people don't actually read thier deeds when they buy a house.

Road2Ruin

6,463 posts

245 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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NDA said:
I believe it is 2 meters that is allowed without planning - measured from his side.

It might be worth having a look at his deeds, you can do this online via the land registry - it would cost £3 - it could be the case that he has covenants in place that don't allow him to do things which might upset the neighbours.
Increasing fencing height is often something in the registry as a restrictive covenant. However, all that it usually says is that you are not allowed to increase the height of the existing fencing! Doesnt say what it was to start with.... Best to speak to the neighbour first.