French Door Security (uPVC)
French Door Security (uPVC)
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recalluk

Original Poster:

816 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Guys, I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction, much Googling is not helping in this instance.

On our estate there appear to have been a few break ins, where the local scum have destroyed the external door hinge of folks' french doors and gained access. Usually while the occupants are actually still upstairs.

The issue is this is "new" estate so everyone has the same French Doors, including me. Now doing some research, what I need to be installing is a "Hinge Bolt" or "SAC Bolt" but these are not suitable for retro fit.

Does anyone know of a similar product or if there is a uPVC version anywhere that can be retro fitted ?? Failing that, is there any other way to scrure the hinges ? For example better replacements.

Edited by recalluk on Monday 22 December 10:04

grumpyscot

1,293 posts

221 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Not sure about locks, but I put a picture of Barry Manilow on the window and we've not been broken into yet. We also have a pic above the fireplace - works far better than a fire-guard!

cptsideways

13,883 posts

281 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Piece of wood in the runner gap!

jshell

12,056 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Had a new UPVC door fitted yesterday and you can see daylight coming in underneath. Being away at the moment the wife sent me some photies of it. I'm not very happy. I'll be visiting them when I get home.

me2

188 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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cptsideways said:
Piece of wood in the runner gap!
French windows = hinges
Patio doors = slide

recalluk

Original Poster:

816 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Aye, its French with Hinges.

As opposed to THE French who Whinge!

koolkul

59 posts

249 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Speak to your local crime prevention officer - who will pay you a home visit and advise the best locks / bolts - and they well probably fit them for free.
We had the same problem ie break in thru patio doors and have since had 'sash jammers' fitted.
Kul

D14 AYS

3,696 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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V12Les

3,985 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Sounds like the developer has done a deal with a supplier for a cheap "contract" range of doors, They should never be able to be broken into like that. Your best bet is to go to your local manufactor/supplier and specify a good quality door, making it clear your reasons why.
They'll be glad of the business and you should get a good price. As a rough guide you should get one for around the £800-1000 inc fitting, depending on spec and size (5-6')

recalluk

Original Poster:

816 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Cheers for that .. I am presuming to prevent removal on the hinge side (doors open outwards). I would mount it on the door so that the arm goes "over" the frame ?

Mattygooner

5,304 posts

233 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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French door security are usually very rude and then run away at the first sign of trouble.

recalluk

Original Poster:

816 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Well I now have 4 "sash jammer" on order and a nice security light.

Cheers all but if anyone has more info let me know !

darronwall

1,730 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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[quote=recalluk]Well I now have 4 "sash jammer" on order and a nice security light.

Cheers all but if anyone has more info let me know ![/quote
a sash jammer will only work if the doors open in!

andy43

13,174 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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If they are wrecking the hinges, the doors must open outwards - your only option is hinge bolts.
Any other kind of upvc hinge will just go the same way I'd imagine, unless you fit half a dozen hinges to each door to give them something of a challenge.
It's worth a fiver at screwfix or B&Q buying a set of hinge bolts designed for timber doors, then just holding them up against your doors to figure out if they'll fit.
If you were to drill the frames and doors to fit the bolts, that would work - sharp drill bits starting small and working up to 10mm or whatever as the frames and doors have ally strengthening inside - note doors contain glass, so don't go drilling too deep or pushing on the drill too much!!
Problem is with it being upvc the peasants may be able to flex the frame and doors enough to clear a bolt anyway, unless you mount the bolts really close to the top and bottom of the doors past the hinges, where the corners prevent too much movement.
Did I mention 240 volts?