HD on conventional TV?
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Vlad.

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246 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Possibly a dumb question. Can you use an HD source with a conventional (top quality) telly or do you have to have an lcd/plasma jobby.

I like my conventional telly - it fills a space in the living room very nicely (and at 70kg would be a pain for anyone to steal). It also seems to have a better picture than most of the flat screen TVs I've seen (with non-HD source).

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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not sure, but why would you?

ETA: thinking about it further after the initial flippant response...

Yes it will work, it must do or PS3's wouldn't work on crts.


Edited by Hedders on Monday 22 December 09:21

mouseymousey

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266 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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No you can't. For a start it won't have the required connections.

grumpyscot

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221 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Most of the HD sources I've come across all have scart leads as well as HDMI - you simply use the scart to get low-def pictures. (Sky HD certainly has this - and it can transmit on RF out too for a simple analogue signal).

Neil_H

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280 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Assuming it had SD output (not all HD sources would, a standalone bluray player might not, for example) you would be able to watch it, but it wouldn't be HD. Your source would downscale it if you don't use a HD connection like HDMI.

It would also be completely pointless.


Edited by Neil_H on Monday 22 December 09:29

Hedders

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Monday 22nd December 2008
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He can use S-VHS / Scart etc.


john_p

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279 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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My xbox (with XBMC) outputs 720p to my LCD TV over component connections, so I don't see why not. I don't know if a good quality CRT will do any more lines per frame than PAL requires though ?

Vlad.

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Monday 22nd December 2008
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Sounds like it's not worth the money or effort.

I can get a pretty good picture from a laptop output (via s video connection?) which must be better than basic PAL spec or I wouldn't be able to read it. That, along with thinking of upgrading the Sky box set me thinking.

Thanks for the replies.

Edited by Vlad. on Monday 22 December 09:30

dtmpower

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274 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Vlad. said:
Sounds like it's not worth the money or effort.

I can get a pretty good picture from a laptop output (via s video connection?) which must be better than basic PAL spec or I wouldn't be able to read it. That, along with thinking of upgrading the Sky box set me thinking.

Thanks for the replies.

Edited by Vlad. on Monday 22 December 09:30
An SD CRT can only display PAL signals at 50Hz/60Hz - the S-video signal will be PAL , as would a RGB scart input or any other legacy connection to a SD crt

Niiick

196 posts

224 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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It's a shame television manufacturers have ceased developing CRT technology.

I've just restored a 36 year old Sony colour set and the picture quality, in particular the contrast, is far superior to the LCD set I have. The old set looks high def. in comparison to the new.

Vlad.

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Monday 22nd December 2008
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Niiick said:
It's a shame television manufacturers have ceased developing CRT technology.

I've just restored a 36 year old Sony colour set and the picture quality, in particular the contrast, is far superior to the LCD set I have. The old set looks high def. in comparison to the new.
This is the thing. My Philips CRT TV has a great picture and I've been less than impressed with the picture on a lot of flat screen TVs I've seen.

page3

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280 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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While you won't benefit from the 'hidef' picture you definitely will from the improved bitrate of Bluray, if you are the sort of person who notices mpeg artefacts such as colour banding. Certainly, I do smile Sound (of course) is in a different league to DVD, finally surpassing LaserDisc.

croyde

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259 months

Monday 22nd December 2008
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Stuff shot on HD and outputted on normal Freeview/Sky BBC looks extra good on my old CRT.