During the next boom time
During the next boom time
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raf_gti

Original Poster:

4,253 posts

235 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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Will you rush to buy yourself a portfolio of property in order to make yourself a paper millionaire or will be happy with your lot after seeing what has happened this time round?

As I sit here now I'm going to say I will be happy with my lot, however I can see that all changing all to easily if house prices (ever) start to go crazy again.

ShadownINja

80,017 posts

311 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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Buy high, sell higher, sit back and giggle.

Like having sex without contraception, it's about knowing when to pull out.

Edited by ShadownINja on Sunday 28th December 10:22

moles

1,858 posts

273 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

231 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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moles said:
I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.
Why when the stock market operates on exactly the same supply and demand princilpes and precieved values do you look to rubbish the housing market?

If we had the Scottish system of housebuying there wouldn't have been the huge boom bust as once agreed a sale is set in concrete without gazumping.

Our estate agents , all unqualified remember must also take a huge proportion of the blame as they illegally inflate prices by simply lying over the phone. Their commision based interests make the whole system open to abuse by agents every time.
There should be a set charge for selling a house based purely on the cost and printing involved etc.

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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mark69sheer said:
Our estate agents , all unqualified remember must also take a huge proportion of the blame as they illegally inflate prices by simply lying over the phone. Their commision based interests make the whole system open to abuse by agents every time.
There should be a set charge for selling a house based purely on the cost and printing involved etc.
On the other side 0.5% of £1000 is £50
For the sake of £50 they would rather the seller loses a grand or two than lose a sale...

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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Honestly? I will probably try and jump on the merry go round next time it goes around.

It seems that in this day and age it is not as risky as it once was. If things go badly you just go bankrupt and start saving some cash for the next time round. If things go well, you are a multi-millionaire.

Who is the fool, the one went bankrupt a few times on the way to riches or the one who just stayed poor and debt free for their entire life?











moles

1,858 posts

273 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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I realise that it is not just the housing market that operates this way but that was what the OP was asking. The greed of society will come home to roost this year and we deserve everything we get.



mark69sheer said:
moles said:
I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.
Why when the stock market operates on exactly the same supply and demand princilpes and precieved values do you look to rubbish the housing market?

If we had the Scottish system of housebuying there wouldn't have been the huge boom bust as once agreed a sale is set in concrete without gazumping.

Our estate agents , all unqualified remember must also take a huge proportion of the blame as they illegally inflate prices by simply lying over the phone. Their commision based interests make the whole system open to abuse by agents every time.
There should be a set charge for selling a house based purely on the cost and printing involved etc.
Edited by moles on Sunday 28th December 10:51

CzechItOut

2,156 posts

220 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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moles said:
I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.
I think Britain has a natural entrepreneurial spirit, Arthur Daley, Del Boy etc. It's part of our psyche.

digger_R

1,809 posts

235 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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Hedders said:
Who is the fool, the one went bankrupt a few times on the way to riches or the one who just stayed poor and debt free for their entire life?
The one who thought material wealth was an indication of thier success/happiness in life

fido

18,877 posts

284 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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ShadownINja said:
Buy high, sell higher, sit back and giggle.

Like having sex without contraception, it's about knowing when to pull out.
or just spunk the load on fast cars and women? music

moles

1,858 posts

273 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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moles said:
Good point, as long as this is allowed to happen how can things ever change?. Digger i'd say more people care about material wealth than happiness.


Hedders said:
Honestly? I will probably try and jump on the merry go round next time it goes around.

It seems that in this day and age it is not as risky as it once was. If things go badly you just go bankrupt and start saving some cash for the next time round. If things go well, you are a multi-millionaire.

Who is the fool, the one went bankrupt a few times on the way to riches or the one who just stayed poor and debt free for their entire life?

Rofly Lollers

759 posts

224 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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CzechItOut said:
I think Britain has a natural entrepreneurial spirit, Arthur Daley, Del Boy etc. It's part of our psyche.
AFAIK, they were not real people wink

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

271 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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CzechItOut said:
moles said:
I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.
I think Britain has a natural entrepreneurial spirit, Arthur Daley, Del Boy etc. It's part of our psyche.
Do you mean natural ability to jump on a bandwagon and bury their head in the sands when it goes wrong?

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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CzechItOut said:
moles said:
I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.
I think Britain has a natural entrepreneurial spirit, Arthur Daley, Del Boy etc. It's part of our psyche.
Mange tout Rodders. He who dares.

Some people see houses as a business opportunity as they are worth money and increase and decrease in value. Therefore they can be an investment. Long term they do very well. Some do well short term.

But shall we take an example of a bloke lets call him Bob.

Now Bob bought a second home 25 years ago The average price of a house was £29,993.

Bob had the house valued this week at £172,108.

Now that is not a bad return. Especially if it has been rented out throughout that time and not cost a penny.

ticmon

118 posts

217 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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mcflurry said:
On the other side 0.5% of £1000 is £50
Is it?

Excuse my hangover but isn't 0.5% of 1k £5?

(or should it have been 10k?)

Edited by ticmon on Sunday 28th December 11:14

NoelWatson

11,710 posts

271 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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elster said:
CzechItOut said:
moles said:
I get the feeling that people in this country will always see houses as an easy way to make money and will rush out at the first opportunity to buy more. It seems like it's engrained in society and therefore we will always have boom/bust.
I think Britain has a natural entrepreneurial spirit, Arthur Daley, Del Boy etc. It's part of our psyche.
Mange tout Rodders. He who dares.

Some people see houses as a business opportunity as they are worth money and increase and decrease in value. Therefore they can be an investment. Long term they do very well. Some do well short term.

But shall we take an example of a bloke lets call him Bob.

Now Bob bought a second home 25 years ago The average price of a house was £29,993.

Bob had the house valued this week at £172,108.

Now that is not a bad return. Especially if it has been rented out throughout that time and not cost a penny.
What did Bob sell the house for? Has Bob heard of inflation?

Pvapour

8,981 posts

282 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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moles said:
moles said:
Good point, as long as this is allowed to happen how can things ever change?. Digger i'd say more people care about material wealth than happiness.


Hedders said:
Honestly? I will probably try and jump on the merry go round next time it goes around.

It seems that in this day and age it is not as risky as it once was. If things go badly you just go bankrupt and start saving some cash for the next time round. If things go well, you are a multi-millionaire.

Who is the fool, the one went bankrupt a few times on the way to riches or the one who just stayed poor and debt free for their entire life?
It's easier to attain I reckon, contrary to the appearance of my profile I do not believe money in itself means happiness but it does give you options in life that are not open without it but I have always put people I love, my health & not hurting anyone above & beyond anything else, that seems to work for me, anyone else have the same sort of approach?

I'd say jump on the band wagon next time, but not at the cost of more important things wink otherwise like allot of bankers, when its gone again (& it will) your left with nothing, including your wife.

Road Pest

3,123 posts

227 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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mark69sheer said:
If we had the Scottish system of housebuying there wouldn't have been the huge boom bust as once agreed a sale is set in concrete without gazumping.

Our estate agents , all unqualified remember must also take a huge proportion of the blame as they illegally inflate prices by simply lying over the phone. Their commision based interests make the whole system open to abuse by agents every time.
There should be a set charge for selling a house based purely on the cost and printing involved etc.
I agree with the qazumping bit but how estate agents acted illegally I'm not sure?

ShadownINja

80,017 posts

311 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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fido said:
ShadownINja said:
Buy high, sell higher, sit back and giggle.

Like having sex without contraception, it's about knowing when to pull out.
or just spunk the load on fast cars and women? music
Like having sex without contraception, if you pull out in time, you won't get her pregnant and can spunk your load on anything you want. Like her thighs. Her chest. Her face...

heebeegeetee

30,138 posts

277 months

Sunday 28th December 2008
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raf_gti said:
or will be happy with your lot after seeing what has happened this time round?
We have remained happy with our humble lot because we remember what happened last time. smile

Bloody glad we have too 'cos i reckon we might be in for a bit of a tough spell us, tbh.