Do the Tories need Big Beast Clarke inside the tent?
Do the Tories need Big Beast Clarke inside the tent?
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Martial Arts Man

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Monday 29th December 2008
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Recently, many commentators have suggested that Cameron's shadow cabinet are a little "lightweight" given the troubles we now find ourselves in.

Would replacing Osborne with big Ken solve the problem?

Gordo couldn't exactly call a former chancellor a novice now could he?

Having just reincarnated Lord Mandelson, Brown would struggle to land any punches regarding "the same old tories".

In hard times, I think we subconsciously turn to those older and supposedly wiser than ourselves for advice and leadership. Experience really does count when things aren't so rosy. I have just turned 27 and find myself more and more often turning to my father for business advice right now....he has after all prospered through all this strife before. During the last 5 years, when making money was easy, I felt less inclined to do this.

Obviously the Europe question raises its head, the issue that has, in my opinion, held Clarke back for the last decade.

Clarke would be difficult to dislondge in the future; but when has politics been about the future?

I'd have him in my Shadow Cabinet just to set him on the gov't. A big beastly attack dog is a useful thing to have!


Anyone got any thoughts on this?

MAM




funk odyssey

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Monday 29th December 2008
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good idea IMHO

prob too pro Europe for some though

10 Pence Short

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Monday 29th December 2008
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The problem would be convincing the public that Clarke is free of the 'sleazed old Tories' reputation.

Despite the fact he was one of the better chancellors in recent history and a damned decent person, I am sure Labour would be more than happy to accuse the Tories of returning to the ways of the Nasty Party and that their voters would believe them.

It would be a gamble.

Martial Arts Man

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10 Pence Short said:
The problem would be convincing the public that Clarke is free of the 'sleazed old Tories' reputation.

Despite the fact he was one of the better chancellors in recent history and a damned decent person, I am sure Labour would be more than happy to accuse the Tories of returning to the ways of the Nasty Party and that their voters would believe them.

It would be a gamble.
Labour do seem better at the character assasination than the rest.

How hypocritical though, given the resurgence of Mandelson (another one I hate but admire greatly), the nastiest of them all

Damned politics!

10 Pence Short

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Monday 29th December 2008
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Martial Arts Man said:
10 Pence Short said:
The problem would be convincing the public that Clarke is free of the 'sleazed old Tories' reputation.

Despite the fact he was one of the better chancellors in recent history and a damned decent person, I am sure Labour would be more than happy to accuse the Tories of returning to the ways of the Nasty Party and that their voters would believe them.

It would be a gamble.
Labour do seem better at the character assasination than the rest.
That's because they don't have to 'waste' time thinking of policies. To Labour it's having the power that is important, not how they use it.

Martial Arts Man

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Monday 29th December 2008
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10 Pence Short said:
Martial Arts Man said:
10 Pence Short said:
The problem would be convincing the public that Clarke is free of the 'sleazed old Tories' reputation.

Despite the fact he was one of the better chancellors in recent history and a damned decent person, I am sure Labour would be more than happy to accuse the Tories of returning to the ways of the Nasty Party and that their voters would believe them.

It would be a gamble.
Labour do seem better at the character assasination than the rest.
That's because they don't have to 'waste' time thinking of policies. To Labour it's having the power that is important, not how they use it.
I believe that to be a good strategy though....without power, no policies are needed either.
Good for the politician though...not the country. (oops, this has diverted into our other Tb discussion)

mybrainhurts

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Monday 29th December 2008
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funk odyssey said:
prob too pro Europe for some though
Correct...