Freezing house!!
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okgo

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42,078 posts

227 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Hi guys, not the greatest place to ask, but before I call out a plumber at vast expense I might try on your knowledge first.

Our heating has stopped working.. The boiler pilot flame is still burning, I have turned it on like I normally do, but the radiators are cold and have been for hours..

The house is about 4 degree's now as its been like it all day while I was at work.. It was working yesterday.. Is there anything I can check to try and trouble shoot?

J-Skid

1,099 posts

287 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Is the pump turning?
Do you still have hot water?
Has it been banging or clanging before it went quiet?


Prof Beard

6,669 posts

256 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Is it a system with a header tank? A stuck ballcock in the header tank can produce this symptom if it is.

john_p

7,073 posts

279 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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What sort of boiler, does hot water work, does it have a diverter valve and is it stuck (google)

TWSTEEL

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Thermocouple

Pump

Thermostat

Turn the room thermostat up and down - do you hear a click? Turn it to max.
Is the burner firing up when you do that? If not could be thermocouple.

If it fires, put your hand on the pump and you should feel the vibration as it kicks in.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

278 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Are you Radiators cold at the top and warm at the bottom ?
If so they might need bleeding.
Has your heating system had it's yearly service ?

mechsympathy

58,546 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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It might be a stuck valve. This thread might help.

okgo

Original Poster:

42,078 posts

227 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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No, I didn't hear any clanging..

The water from the hot taps is not getting hot no.

I don't know what the header bit is? I have an airing cupboard with the water tank in, and then in the kitchen a thermostat with the control I use, with the white box with flame inside above..

cs02rm0

13,816 posts

220 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Are any warm at the bottom at all? If so, probably need bleeding.

okgo

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227 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Nope radiators are cold from top to bottom, I will have a look at that switch.. as its in the airing cupboard I guess attached to the foam insulated tank??

Prof Beard

6,669 posts

256 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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If you have the sort of system that has a header tank, these are usually in the loft (a tank with a ballcock like the one in a bog cistern)

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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If the pilot light is on, but it's not fireing the burner my guess is a component failure inside the boiler which is stopping it fireing. Happened to ours on boxing day.

Particularly if the pump is working, everything is set to on, and neither hot water or heating is hot.

Time for a corgi registerd man. http://www.trustcorgi.com/

Or British Gas...

mechsympathy

58,546 posts

284 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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okgo said:
The water from the hot taps is not getting hot no.
You sure the pilot light's still on?

Freezing Ferg

15,242 posts

286 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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TWSTEEL said:
Turn the room thermostat up and down - do you hear a click? Turn it to max.
Is the burner firing up when you do that? If not could be thermocouple.
Absolutely NOT! The OP says the pilot is alight.

okgo

Original Poster:

42,078 posts

227 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Prof Beard said:
If you have the sort of system that has a header tank, these are usually in the loft (a tank with a ballcock like the one in a bog cistern)
Oh, not sure, house is only ten years old, I have found that switch but cannot read what it says due to the way its placed..

TWSTEEL

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Freezing Ferg said:
TWSTEEL said:
Turn the room thermostat up and down - do you hear a click? Turn it to max.
Is the burner firing up when you do that? If not could be thermocouple.
Absolutely NOT! The OP says the pilot is alight.
I mean the thermocouple in the boiler unit itself.

Freezing Ferg

15,242 posts

286 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Can you tell me what make and type of boiler it is, please?

TWSTEEL

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218 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Central Heating FAQ
Here you will see FAQ’s covering Central Heating, and Boilers. .... or the heat sensing thermocouple that detects its lit condition, has deteriorated. ...
www.letsfixit.co.uk/html/central_heating_faq.html - 43k - Cached - Similar pages -



okgo

Original Poster:

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227 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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Freezing Ferg said:
Can you tell me what make and type of boiler it is, please?
I presume we are talking about the whitebox with the flame in here? rofl I am terrible.

Yes pilot light is still on.. both lights for hot water and heating are on.

What do I need to do to this switch in the cupboard then?

TWSTEEL

1,099 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th January 2009
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TWSTEEL said:
Freezing Ferg said:
TWSTEEL said:
Turn the room thermostat up and down - do you hear a click? Turn it to max.
Is the burner firing up when you do that? If not could be thermocouple.
Absolutely NOT! The OP says the pilot is alight.
I mean the thermocouple in the boiler unit itself.
Absolutely YES! - could easily be the thermocouple not detecting the pilot light is on.