fixing the economy in the US is easy , its fixing ours
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Americans know they are in the $h%* and with Obarma coming in for 4 years he needs to act strong and quick...so simple the day after he gets in office, he doubles/triples the price of Gas/petrol to the price of what we have here on the back of his "new" green policy.
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
Edited by sussexjob on Monday 5th January 03:26
sussexjob said:
Americans know they are in the $h%* and with Obarma coming in for 4 years he needs to act strong and quick...so simple the day after he gets in office, he doubles/triples the price of Gas/petrol to the price of what we have here on the back of his "new" green policy.
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
The US will fix itself because something like 80+% of its GDP is internal & therefore relies on neither import nor export. They also have a huge manufacturing base, a huge amount of self belief & in the US its cool to succeed - and they will.V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
Edited by sussexjob on Monday 5th January 03:26
We, on the other hand, are screwed with an economoy reliant on state sector jobs that make nothing and that therefore (while they may deliver a service) actually add no value to the economy as a whole - they just require more taxation revenue to pay for them.
Iain328 said:
The US will fix itself because something like 80+% of its GDP is internal & therefore relies on neither import nor export. They also have a huge manufacturing base, a huge amount of self belief & in the US its cool to succeed - and they will.
We, on the other hand, are screwed with an economoy reliant on state sector jobs that make nothing and that therefore (while they may deliver a service) actually add no value to the economy as a whole - they just require more taxation revenue to pay for them.
And we're cultivating a generation of no-hopers who think it's cool to fail, are happy to take what's given to them and aspire to nothing. This country really is, I fear, in serious trouble.We, on the other hand, are screwed with an economoy reliant on state sector jobs that make nothing and that therefore (while they may deliver a service) actually add no value to the economy as a whole - they just require more taxation revenue to pay for them.
sussexjob said:
Americans know they are in the $h%* and with Obarma coming in for 4 years he needs to act strong and quick...so simple the day after he gets in office, he doubles/triples the price of Gas/petrol to the price of what we have here on the back of his "new" green policy.
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
Where did you get your info on fuel prices from? I post on a mainly American forum and recently everyone has been applauding the drop in fuel prices recently, as they had been over $3 a gallon. A guy in California took this photo on the 2nd:V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
Edited by sussexjob on Monday 5th January 03:26
Nope- can't see $5-6 a gallon there.
Funk said:
Iain328 said:
The US will fix itself because something like 80+% of its GDP is internal & therefore relies on neither import nor export. They also have a huge manufacturing base, a huge amount of self belief & in the US its cool to succeed - and they will.
We, on the other hand, are screwed with an economoy reliant on state sector jobs that make nothing and that therefore (while they may deliver a service) actually add no value to the economy as a whole - they just require more taxation revenue to pay for them.
And we're cultivating a generation of no-hopers who think it's cool to fail, are happy to take what's given to them and aspire to nothing. This country really is, I fear, in serious trouble.We, on the other hand, are screwed with an economoy reliant on state sector jobs that make nothing and that therefore (while they may deliver a service) actually add no value to the economy as a whole - they just require more taxation revenue to pay for them.
k all, and no means of paying for it. Most importantly, no politician with any vision or idea how to get out of the mess, and even if they had, a sufficiently large constituency of voters who don't want to because They're Allright Jack, or at least they think so. The sensible money is heading for the exit. BB-Q said:
sussexjob said:
Americans know they are in the $h%* and with Obarma coming in for 4 years he needs to act strong and quick...so simple the day after he gets in office, he doubles/triples the price of Gas/petrol to the price of what we have here on the back of his "new" green policy.
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
Where did you get your info on fuel prices from? I post on a mainly American forum and recently everyone has been applauding the drop in fuel prices recently, as they had been over $3 a gallon. A guy in California took this photo on the 2nd:V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
The revenue this creates (which will be considerable )can be used to be used to bail out the failing social security/banking system which in the long run will benefit ourselves a small way.
Four years time Obarma will be treated as a hero for carrying out the boldest move that any American president has ever done and gets voted in again.
Now thats the US sorted, but as much as I think about us the UK, i can't come up with an answer anyone here a clue about both countries problems and my solution ?
Edited by sussexjob on Monday 5th January 03:26
Nope- can't see $5-6 a gallon there.
But if you want a good source of prices look here
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publ...
Edited by sussexjob on Monday 5th January 08:26
He's right. Because in the States they have, still, a pro-enterprise attitude. In the UK however they are in denial. Who would seriously keep significant sums of money in Sterling now? You would have to be crazy.
Anyway, if you want cheap fuel, all you have to do is take the ferry to Calais.
Anyway, if you want cheap fuel, all you have to do is take the ferry to Calais.
cardigankid said:
He's right. Because in the States they have, still, a pro-enterprise attitude. In the UK however they are in denial. Who would seriously keep significant sums of money in Sterling now? You would have to be crazy.
Anyway, if you want cheap fuel, all you have to do is take the ferry to Calais.
Actually with the sAnyway, if you want cheap fuel, all you have to do is take the ferry to Calais.
t that is the pound in your pocket, petrol is actually more expensive in France than the UK! Diesel is about the same or maybe slightly less at a supermarket.I guess you are not American. The cost of 'gas' over there is a barometer - they get mighty angry when 'gas' is expensive.
If Obama tripled gas prices, he would not last 5 minutes in office. Maybe you underestimate the power of the oilco lobbyists?
Why would increased 'gas' prices make any difference to the planet, by the way?
If Obama tripled gas prices, he would not last 5 minutes in office. Maybe you underestimate the power of the oilco lobbyists?
Why would increased 'gas' prices make any difference to the planet, by the way?
sussexjob said:
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
TBH anyone who proposes killing off the V8 and suggests the spread of the eurobox is on the wrong forum.cazzer said:
sussexjob said:
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
TBH anyone who proposes killing off the V8 and suggests the spread of the eurobox is on the wrong forum.TC
Tom_C76 said:
cazzer said:
sussexjob said:
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
TBH anyone who proposes killing off the V8 and suggests the spread of the eurobox is on the wrong forum.TC
How the hell can raising the price of fuel "save the planet"? And save the planet from what? And where's the logic in saying the larger vehicles will be removed from the road, but that the increase in fuel revenue will be useful? If the more thirsty vehicles are removed from the road (and where will they go?), then the fuel revenue is reduced.
Tom_C76 said:
cazzer said:
sussexjob said:
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
TBH anyone who proposes killing off the V8 and suggests the spread of the eurobox is on the wrong forum.TC
And oil is gonna run out whatever we drive.
Personally I'd sooner get 20 years of V8 thunder then 30 years of driving an Aygo.
But then I don't have kids so the earth can go to s
t in 30 years for all I care. I'll be dead. 
Tom_C76 said:
cazzer said:
sussexjob said:
V8 Mega-Sized Pick-ups Cars will be a thing of the past which will be good for the planet-creating a demand for European sized vehicles which will stimulate companies there, Europe and the Far East.
TBH anyone who proposes killing off the V8 and suggests the spread of the eurobox is on the wrong forum.TC
In 1885, the US Geological Survey announced that there was "little or no chance" of oil being discovered in California, and a few years later they said the same about Kansas and Texas.
In 1939, the US Department of the Interior said American oil supplies would last only another 13 years.
In 1949, the secretary of the interior said the end of US oil supplies was in sight.
In 1974 the US Geological Survey advised that the US had only a 10-year supply of natural gas.
In 1972, a report was written for the Club of Rome warning that the world would run out of petroleum and natural gas by 1992.
And we've been fed this message constantly for the last 10 years or so as part of the current greenie agenda (or is that an agendum?).
Another thread for the doom mongers, Although things are in st order it will get sorted and the apathetic attitude on most of the postings on here are why it will take longer than it should.
I thought the American Car industry was on it's knee's, so how on earth is raising fuel going to help. They can only manufacture gas guzzlers, this idea will have them looking to the East for cars while the yanks modify their plants to accomadate the smaller cars made in Europe.
Why doesn't everyone just find a cliff and jump off, save the hassle of being pushed at a later date.
It would be nice to see a thread on some positives for a change.
t order it will get sorted and the apathetic attitude on most of the postings on here are why it will take longer than it should.I thought the American Car industry was on it's knee's, so how on earth is raising fuel going to help. They can only manufacture gas guzzlers, this idea will have them looking to the East for cars while the yanks modify their plants to accomadate the smaller cars made in Europe.
Why doesn't everyone just find a cliff and jump off, save the hassle of being pushed at a later date.
It would be nice to see a thread on some positives for a change.
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