CP Plus parking fines....

[Hoppy2008]

Whats the score with this company?
I had a fine for not displaying a ticket in a Train Station Carpark.
I ignored the original letters, now they sent me a threat with court action.
Do I pay up or can I get off with it?

[merc_man]

Have you told them who was driving? If not then nothing to worry about. Just ignore and they will go away. Plenty of sites out there to tell you why.

I had a similar thing when I had a season ticket displayed and they are like a bulldog with a bone, won't let go. Forget trying to phone them or contact by letter. Utter waste of time.

Edited by merc_man on Monday 5th January 15:22

[Adrian W]

Ignore it, there was a thread about this stuff in Speed Plod and the law

[Hoppy2008]

anonymous said:

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Nope.
I was in a rush and took the gamble, didnt buy a ticket, came back and had the fine attached to my window. Hold my hands up.
But when I googled this company it seems they are cowboys who do not have the right to issue fines, and they rely heavily on bullying tactics.
So with that inmind, I was thinking of ignoring all their letters.
Just wondered if anyone on PH had dealings with them?

Cheers

[Hoppy2008]

merc_man said:

Have you told them who was driving? If not then nothing to worry about. Just ignore and they will go away.

No. I did try to ring their solicitors, think they are called "Treytorns" or something similar, but ot was just a voicemail message saying they dont take calls!!

[Hoppy2008]

anonymous said:

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Now you mention it, it WAS attached to my visor!
Thanks for your replies Tonker, and the rest of you Guys too!
I'll post again if/when I hear back from the Cowboys.
Cheers all
Hoppy

[merc_man]

Oh I got through to their solicitors and managed to speak to some bint who was completely ignorant of the law. She seemed to think that I had to tell them who was driving.

As I said, waste of time. Just don't reply, don't acknowledge any correspondance and they'll give up in the end.

Just a bunch of chancers who treat everyone the same regardless of whether or not it was their mistake.

[Hoppy2008]

merc_man said:

Oh I got through to their solicitors and managed to speak to some bint who was completely ignorant of the law. She seemed to think that I had to tell them who was driving.

As I said, waste of time. Just don't reply, don't acknowledge any correspondance and they'll give up in the end.

Just a bunch of chancers who treat everyone the same regardless of whether or not it was their mistake.

cheers mate.

[Hoppy2008]

anonymous said:

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Excellent!
Have another one

[Adrian W]

merc_man said:

Oh I got through to their solicitors and managed to speak to some bint who was completely ignorant of the law. She seemed to think that I had to tell them who was driving.

As I said, waste of time. Just don't reply, don't acknowledge any correspondance and they'll give up in the end.

Just a bunch of chancers who treat everyone the same regardless of whether or not it was their mistake.

That is the law, as soon as you tell them who was driving they can go to court, provided that is they can quantify the damages they are claiming.

[Parrot of Doom]

This was on a train station car park, which may be subject to railway bylaws - so I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

[Hoppy2008]

Parrot of Doom said:

This was on a train station car park, which may be subject to railway bylaws - so I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

How does that affect things?

[Tom_C76]

Hoppy2008 said:

Parrot of Doom said:

This was on a train station car park, which may be subject to railway bylaws - so I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

How does that affect things?

It's private land, so the owners can appoint who they like to issue fines, provided they are registered with the same body the regulates bouncers. Don't think they have to identify the driver either, AAUI they can pursue the registered keeper for parking fines on private land.

TC

[Hoppy2008]

Tom_C76 said:

Hoppy2008 said:

Parrot of Doom said:

This was on a train station car park, which may be subject to railway bylaws - so I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

How does that affect things?

It's private land, so the owners can appoint who they like to issue fines, provided they are registered with the same body the regulates bouncers. Don't think they have to identify the driver either, AAUI they can pursue the registered keeper for parking fines on private land.

TC

Thanks TC.
So, how is that different from say, a Morrissons car park?

[merc_man]

Tom_C76 said:

Hoppy2008 said:

Parrot of Doom said:

This was on a train station car park, which may be subject to railway bylaws - so I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

How does that affect things?

It's private land, so the owners can appoint who they like to issue fines, provided they are registered with the same body the regulates bouncers. Don't think they have to identify the driver either, AAUI they can pursue the registered keeper for parking fines on private land.

TC

No, they can't. The contract is between whoever parked and the owner.

If there is no photographic proof of the missing ticket (360 degree of car should do it) and no proof of who was driving there is no case.

Not one of these cases has ever gone to court, ever wonder why?

[NWTony]

Tom_C76 said:

Hoppy2008 said:

Parrot of Doom said:

This was on a train station car park, which may be subject to railway bylaws - so I wouldn't hold your breath just yet.

How does that affect things?

It's private land, so the owners can appoint who they like to issue fines, provided they are registered with the same body the regulates bouncers. Don't think they have to identify the driver either, AAUI they can pursue the registered keeper for parking fines on private land.

TC

No wrong I'm afraid. It's all about contract law since this isn't a criminal matter and they only have a contract with the criver who may or may not be the same person as the registered keeper.

[sadako]

I suspect their solicitors are actually them under a different name. I've not heard of that company doing anything else...

[Parrot of Doom]

You should ask on Pepipoo, is there anything on the ticket that says 'railway bylaw'?

[Yrv 130 turbo]

As Parrot of Doom said it is different issue because it is a railway carpark CP Plus are contracted by SWT to Manage the Carpark.

They do take Photos and will take it further action and admitting on a forum it not wise thing because from your profile they can see what car you drive.

You never know who looks at the forum so if i was you either change your profile for awhile

Edited by Yrv 130 turbo on Monday 5th January 16:41

Edited by Yrv 130 turbo on Monday 5th January 16:45