CARBON OFFSETTING - SENSIBLE OR SCAM?
CARBON OFFSETTING - SENSIBLE OR SCAM?
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deeps

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5,432 posts

270 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Please donate as much cash as you can to save the planet. Take a look at the link below (it's a legitimate link from the PH home page) and you will be taken to a secure site where you can choose how much you want to send to companies in the US. After donating, please send me a private message, and I will supply you with my paypal address, and promise to plant a tree for every £10 you send me. biggrinangel


https://secure.groundspring.org/dn/index.php?aid=8...

AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

258 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Or not.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

264 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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This is what does my head in - everything is carbon, we've forgotten everything else - for instance, all this turn to 15 degrees on your washing machine and use this special liquid. How powerful does that liquid have to be to work in cold water? How much damage will that do? We don't care as we only bow down to the god of Carbon now.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Purest form of bullsh!t known to man....

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Dodgy Website said:
1. Select an amount to offset (the average American is responsible for 24 tons of CO2 per year)
So if it's 24 tons for the average, lumbering, sweating American, it'll be about 500g for the average person from anywhere else smile

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

277 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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paperbag I do this with BP, but only as a piss take to get the sticker for the Bentley that says 'This car is carbon neutral', even a Prius owner can't claim that, unless he offsets his 106 grammes hehe

BigBazza

2,135 posts

276 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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We've just been outbid on a small local woodland that we had valued at £200k by Leyland DAF, yes the same Leyland DAF that are laying people up as they are so short on production.

Sealed bids, we went in at £205k for 6 acres of protected woodland, they went in at £577k because they can use it to offset their carbon emissions.

The woodland is already there and not going anywhere so how does that offset their carbon? Buying a field and planting trees maybe - what a load of horsest!

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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BigBazza said:
We've just been outbid on a small local woodland that we had valued at £200k by Leyland DAF, yes the same Leyland DAF that are laying people up as they are so short on production.

Sealed bids, we went in at £205k for 6 acres of protected woodland, they went in at £577k because they can use it to offset their carbon emissions.

The woodland is already there and not going anywhere so how does that offset their carbon? Buying a field and planting trees maybe - what a load of horsest!
confused You deride both DAF and the process itself, yet were willing to stump up £205k yourself to take part?

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Scam didley scam scam.

Well, actually, a legitimate business wrapped up in an Environmental package to appeal to the apologising middle-classes who 'want to do their bit'.

If you want to save the planet, do something sensible - don't pay someone else to do it for you! I am no environmentalist nutter, but even I can see the sense in cutting your gas or electricity usage, rather than shoving £200 to some nice bloke in a Barber jacket who 'says' he will invest it in ethically-sound forests or something.

I met an environmental consultant once - hateful man. Spouted the party line like some die hard socialist. Almost believable until he jumped into his new Volvo T5 estate, explaining he was off skiing with his family that winter, having just got back from a holiday in Asia.... practice what you preach......






deeps

Original Poster:

5,432 posts

270 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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No-one's asked for my paypal address yet frown

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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deeps said:
No-one's asked for my paypal address yet frown
Maybe you haven't emitted any carbon yet smile

esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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V8mate said:
BigBazza said:
We've just been outbid on a small local woodland that we had valued at £200k by Leyland DAF, yes the same Leyland DAF that are laying people up as they are so short on production.

Sealed bids, we went in at £205k for 6 acres of protected woodland, they went in at £577k because they can use it to offset their carbon emissions.

The woodland is already there and not going anywhere so how does that offset their carbon? Buying a field and planting trees maybe - what a load of horsest!
confused You deride both DAF and the process itself, yet were willing to stump up £205k yourself to take part?
Did BB say he wanted it to offset his CO2?

Kaelic

2,720 posts

230 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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V8mate said:
BigBazza said:
We've just been outbid on a small local woodland that we had valued at £200k by Leyland DAF, yes the same Leyland DAF that are laying people up as they are so short on production.

Sealed bids, we went in at £205k for 6 acres of protected woodland, they went in at £577k because they can use it to offset their carbon emissions.

The woodland is already there and not going anywhere so how does that offset their carbon? Buying a field and planting trees maybe - what a load of horsest!
confused You deride both DAF and the process itself, yet were willing to stump up £205k yourself to take part?
Sounds like he was just trying to buy the woodland and not use it for offsetting... as I understand it

andy400

11,621 posts

260 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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off_again said:
Barber jacket
What's one of those? Some sort of stripey blazer?

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Kaelic said:
V8mate said:
BigBazza said:
We've just been outbid on a small local woodland that we had valued at £200k by Leyland DAF, yes the same Leyland DAF that are laying people up as they are so short on production.

Sealed bids, we went in at £205k for 6 acres of protected woodland, they went in at £577k because they can use it to offset their carbon emissions.

The woodland is already there and not going anywhere so how does that offset their carbon? Buying a field and planting trees maybe - what a load of horsest!
confused You deride both DAF and the process itself, yet were willing to stump up £205k yourself to take part?
Sounds like he was just trying to buy the woodland and not use it for offsetting... as I understand it
Ohhhhhhhhhh. Fair enough smile

£200k seems a lot for 6 acres of non-developable land.

deeps

Original Poster:

5,432 posts

270 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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V8mate said:
deeps said:
No-one's asked for my paypal address yet frown
Maybe you haven't emitted any carbon yet smile
Well I'm trying, my car only does 17mpg.

I wonder if the rumours about Gore are true? That he deliberately bought into 'dirty' companies that would be able to claim these carbon reducing payments.

BigBazza

2,135 posts

276 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Hi, wasn't looking to offset anything, the woodland basically surrounds our land in a horseshoe shape and if we owned it we would be development proof, which we reckoned was worth £200k.

Could have done a bit of shooting, built a tree house for the kids, just generally enjoyed owning a bit of woodland that was all.

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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It's all a load of bks, but people listen.

I've given up on saying "we can do X to save money" - because they don't listen. If I say "we can do X and save on CO2" they seem to applaud.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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Mattt, if you keep your mouth shut you'll save even more wink

The Trig

426 posts

218 months

Monday 5th January 2009
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I am all for recycling and trying to look after this planet of ours, but sometimes things go too far on the band wagon. To help offset my planet killer of a car I try to keep my garden as natural as possible, with as much wild vegetation as possible. During the winter months I am propergating 54 chilli plants to cultivate during the summer months. I am sure the gases they will generate will help contribute to the green house effect biggrin