3 out of 5 ebayers a con?
3 out of 5 ebayers a con?
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Ment-Al

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20,421 posts

224 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Ridiculous.

Over the festive period, i bought some stuff off of ebay, off people with good feedback, looked trustworthy.

3 out of 5 of the items have not turned up and I cant get in touch with the sellers. Bit I dont understand, as I paid via paypal and I will be opening a dispute and getting my money back as there is no chance they can supply a tracking number etc?

I keep saying I will never use ebay again but always get sucked in after a few drinks.

I sold 7 things in the early days, before I realised, literally going back a few years - 4 of them ended up claiming no delivery and getting money back from paypal even though I definitely sent them, albeit 1st class but not recorded. I had proof of postage but they dont accept it.

Basically, buy what you like off ebay, pay using paypal and claim it didnt arrive. If they didnt send it recorded you get your money back AND the goods - easy. Never using ebay again.

In fact, go one step further, sell something expensive, send the buyer a brick recorded delivery. You then have proof of delivery. Paypal decide in your favour and who is to know what was in the package?


Biker's Nemesis

41,406 posts

237 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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..And you've got the one's who's pals bid their items up for them.

Me cynical!!

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

224 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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For balance I've never had a major problem with ebay/Paypal.

The only slight issue I had was a buyer claiming he hadn't received something (to the value of £89.99) that I sent via DHL.

He opened a dispute via Paypal and "won" the dispute claiming it hadn't been signed for by him therefore he hadn't received it. Paypal issued him a refund for the full amount.

I appealled the decision, sent evidence to Paypal of a tracking number and signature for delivery (from the buyers neighbour it turned out) and the decision was overturned. I got the full £89.99 back.

I love ebay. I buy something almost every day on there and sell stuff when I want/need to.



jamoor

14,506 posts

244 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Christmas post maybe?

why the st do people send christmas cards and fk the whole system up for a good 2 months?

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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What were the items? Bought and sold loads of stuff recently and not had any problems.

The nature of the items does make a difference, some are more scam-worthy than others.

pokethepope

2,667 posts

217 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Ment-Al said:
Ridiculous.
In fact, go one step further, sell something expensive, send the buyer a brick recorded delivery. You then have proof of delivery. Paypal decide in your favour and who is to know what was in the package?
Thats a good point. How could eBay find against you if you have proof of postage, you simply say that the buyer is the conman because he has recieved the item and then claimed it was a brick. I'm suprised I havn't heard of this happening actually, interesting to see how eBay would handle it.

jollygreen

21,199 posts

231 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I've got a feebdack of about 140 so haven't really used it much. Bought lots of bits for land rovers and unimgos and sold a couple of cars and some computer games.

I've never had any problem with it but it can be easy to get carried away and end up paying over the odds.

Callan.T89

8,422 posts

222 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I only sell items as "buyer collect only" "cash on collection" now. If they want it they have to come and get it and hand over the cash.

Seems to have weeded out the scammers, you usually get the odd Nigerian asking if I will post it, if you refuse and add the question to the listing the scammers usually stop.

Not really practical with small items and may not make as good a price but saves loads of messing about.

andy-xr

13,204 posts

233 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I'm still waiting for stuff to arrive that was bought, paid for and shipped between Xmas and NY. The sellers have sent me the recorded delivery tracking numbers and RM just shows as "Come back later"

I picked a parcel up from the sorting office yesterday, and was quite surprised to see lots of red enveloped cards sat there, must have been over 50

Poledriver

29,578 posts

223 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Never had a problem with purchasing off e-bay aprt from slight mis-description of goods.
PayPal normally OK aprt from the fact that they sometimes insist on taking money from my credit card instead of from my bank!

cambiker71

444 posts

215 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Poledriver said:
PayPal normally OK aprt from the fact that they sometimes insist on taking money from my credit card instead of from my bank!
That's easily sorted, change the card details to the debit card associated to the account you normally use, i set mine up from day one like this.

Seademon

1,168 posts

242 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Ive been using it for about 6 years now & over that time I've only had problems with 2 people

1 persons cheque never arrived and left me negative feedback stating he'd sent payment yet I didnt send the item?!

2nd one, I sent the item, the said it wasnt as described and claimed their money back via paypal - it was only a keyboard and mouse! Totally out of order really but I cover every angle from a selling point of view - I get proof of postage with everything and describe any faults & marks with all my items so there can be no come back!


esselte

14,626 posts

296 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Biker's Nemesis said:
..And you've got the one's who's pals bid their items up for them.

Me cynical!!
But surely if the price goes beyond what you're willing to pay you stop bidding...?

bazking69

8,620 posts

219 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I tend to find that the ebay/Paypal problem transaction rate is about 20/1 these days.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Biker's Nemesis said:
..And you've got the one's who's pals bid their items up for them.

Me cynical!!
Had that a few times, but you can quite easily spot suspicious bidding on the history. Usually another bidder bids up in small increments until they find your highest bid, then bomb out. I then wait until near the auction end & withdraw my bid!

mitzy

13,858 posts

226 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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In got all my bits I paid for , A first time ebayer I bought something for £200, no problems at all.

Suppose its the luck of the draw.

I had a dispute as something was the wrong size to what they said on the ad, but that was all sorted too. Seller was great lots of email contact etc.


agric

367 posts

213 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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Just had my first dispute settled (damaged goods)
So quite optimistic for now,

Having said that, both items were bought early December and have now opened another dispute for a non-delivery of the other thing.

Seller mailed me 9 days ago
'Working away, item now in post .....'
Reckon it made less than he-d hoped and that it will all fizzle out if he ignores it long enough,

Prior to December I've had very few problems generally though

Simpo Two

92,704 posts

294 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I think a lot of it depends on what you're selling. Mobile phones and laptops seem to be a scammer's paradise. In four years and almost 300 transactions I've had 4-5 issues, of which two were sales last spring (curiously just after sellers were not allowed to leave -ve feedback...)

qube_TA

8,405 posts

274 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I've bought & sold over 100 items through Ebay & PayPal. Never had a problem.

Can't see how an alternative could be better.



Tony*T3

20,911 posts

276 months

Friday 9th January 2009
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I rememeber the first time I recieved negative feedback from a buyer. I had 100% feedback on over thousand sales, so was perplexed to see a red slodge turn up from a buyer. His comment just made my day though....

"Made a mistake and didnt really want to buy this item".

He hadnt even paid for it, just went straight to negative feedback.


I would literally have kicked him to death at the time if I could have got hold of him!!! What a dick.

Dont use ebay anymore, as its a ripoff.