Unemployment benefit in other countries

[anonymous-user]

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[marvelharvey]

I live in Japan. Over here, you have to be in continuous employment for 6 months, before being eligible for unemployment benefit/job seekers allowance. Unlike the UK, Japanese unemployment benefit is not a fixed amount, but based upon average earnings in the six months prior to becoming jobless (not sure of the exact percentages). Also, these payments are for a limited period only, the length depending on how many months/years the jobseeker worked at their previous employer.

[XJSJohn]

Does not exist in Singapore, nor Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia.

Have to rely on family / your ability to be employed doing something all the time.

[Eric Mc]

All EU countries would have such schemes.

[Asterix]

Nothing in Dubai unless you are a local/National.

[JagLover]

The UK benefit system provides lavish benefits for those who have never worked, or never will work, while providing a pittance to those who need it after contributing all their lives.

In most European countries you receive as a benefit a percentage of your previous earnings.

[nonplussed]

JagLover said:

The UK benefit system provides lavish benefits for those who have never worked, or never will work, while providing a pittance to those who need it after contributing all their lives.

So it would certainly appear

JagLover said:

In most European countries you receive as a benefit a percentage of your previous earnings.

In some, possibly, but not in Northern Europe and Scandinavia, as far as I undertand it, so I don't think it's a generally implemented way of doing things across Europe. Not sure it's really a good idea either, certainly if implemented here it'd be abused endlessly.

[amir_j]

Switzerland

80% of your last salary for up to 2 years of unemployment, 70% if no family.

Edited by amir_j on Monday 12th January 11:17

[thehawk]

XJSJohn said:

Does not exist in Singapore, nor Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia.

Have to rely on family / your ability to be employed doing something all the time.

Seems to be the fairest way I think.

[Hedders]

Asterix said:

Nothing in Dubai unless you are a local/National.

What a great idea! we would be awash with cash if we adopted that strategy!

[BB-Q]

nonplussed said:

JagLover said:

The UK benefit system provides lavish benefits for those who have never worked, or never will work, while providing a pittance to those who need it after contributing all their lives.

So it would certainly appear

JagLover said:

In most European countries you receive as a benefit a percentage of your previous earnings.

In some, possibly, but not in Northern Europe and Scandinavia, as far as I undertand it, so I don't think it's a generally implemented way of doing things across Europe. Not sure it's really a good idea either, certainly if implemented here it'd be abused endlessly.

A Swedish friend of mine told that is exactly how it works. He also told me that once you have a permanent job it is very difficult to lose it.

[TheGreatSoprendo]

amir_j said:

Switzerland

80% of your last salary for up to 2 years of unemployment, 70% if no family.

Edited by amir_j on Monday 12th January 11:17

Farkin ell! If only we had that here, it would significantly ease my current redundancy worries... How the hell can they afford to offer that level of benefit?

[Muntu]

This will probably go down like a cup of cold sick:

Article said:

"POVERTY-STRICKEN Africans yesterday said they were ready to “jump on the next plane” to Britain after the EU opened a job centre in Mali.

Unemployed workers des­cribed the £8million taxpayer funded project – designed to help people find work legally in Europe – as “heaven sent”.

A rather odd strategy by our lords and masters, given the state of the UK economy and inevitable rise in unemployment

[Finlandia]

Sweden, £20 a day upto 80% of pay for 300 days, depending on how much you have paid into the fund. The fund is to be paid into on top of your normal tax, which already in itself is eyewatering.

On another note, the former Swedish PM had on top of his very good salary, a so called housing benefit of approx £400 a month. Sweden really is the paradise for benefits.

[Magog]

TheGreatSoprendo said:

amir_j said:

Switzerland

80% of your last salary for up to 2 years of unemployment, 70% if no family.

Edited by amir_j on Monday 12th January 11:17

Farkin ell! If only we had that here, it would significantly ease my current redundancy worries... How the hell can they afford to offer that level of benefit?

Probably because nearly everyone has a job I'd imagine, so very few people actually claim it.

[Simpo Two]

XJSJohn said:

Does not exist in Singapore, nor Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia.

Have to rely on family / your ability to be employed doing something all the time.

Which explains why these people are busy making goods and selling them to us!

[adaptive]

anonymous said:

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JSA in the UK is based on your NI contribution in the past 2 tax years. If you have been paying class 1 contributions in the past 2 complete tax years, you should qualify for 6 months JSA, regardless of whether your OH works. If you have been self employed and not paying full stamp, you wont qualify. After 6 months, you can claim Income Support.
If your OH works F/T, you wont be able to claim Income Support as it is a "Means Tested" benefit.
This is how the rules worked 8 years ago when I worked for the Employment Service but it may have changed.

[im]

amir_j said:

Switzerland

...80% of your last salary...

I'm pretty sure that it was the something similar in the UK in the late 70's. I know it was a considerable sum when compared to average earnings anyway.

[amir_j]

Magog said:

TheGreatSoprendo said:

amir_j said:

Switzerland

80% of your last salary for up to 2 years of unemployment, 70% if no family.

Edited by amir_j on Monday 12th January 11:17

Farkin ell! If only we had that here, it would significantly ease my current redundancy worries... How the hell can they afford to offer that level of benefit?

Probably because nearly everyone has a job I'd imagine, so very few people actually claim it.

The only rule is that you must have worked for two years prior...anywhere! eg my flatmate when i was there had his contract cancelled, had only been there 3 months but as worked in UK prior was fine. He isn't coming back to the UK becuase of this as can cover his rent there, uk mortgage and some!

[XJSJohn]

Simpo Two said:

XJSJohn said:

Does not exist in Singapore, nor Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia.

Have to rely on family / your ability to be employed doing something all the time.

Which explains why these people are busy making goods and selling them to us!

... everyone you meet will always have half an eye on a new business venture, which makes for a very entrepreneurial environment.

Be it a hedge fund, a semiconducter factory, or a trolly selling $1 noodles in the business district.

They also indirectly help each other ...

For example, its accepted whenever in a food court / fast food restaurant that you leave your tray of food on the table. The food court employes the elderley (who would otherwise have no job, and may well have a very low pension) on a low wage to do the clearing up. 3 or 4 old dears work together and have a good old natter at the same time.

Also, no paper napkins are available, but there will be an OAP somewhere nearby that will sell you 3 packs for $1.

No one is ever thinking "how can i sponge off the state"

If there is a real genuine crisis beyond anyones control, (EG when DBS High Notes devalued 100%) teh government will step in to help those genuinely affected.