Golden Hello from Government
Golden Hello from Government
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elster

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17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Just watching working lunch.

Surely this is mental, they are planning on giving £2500 to employers who take on long term unemployed.

Who came up with this idea?

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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According to the Tories, them!

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

233 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Works brilliantly

For week them the work dodger goes back to sitting on their fat lazy useless ass

Sheets Tabuer

21,392 posts

244 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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What made me laugh watching his speech was him say someone from six months ago told him he had found a job and if he could find one anyone could.

That was six months ago Gordon, it's gone tits up since then.

elster

Original Poster:

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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chris watton said:
According to the Tories, them!
So both labour and conservative are retards?!

If anyone could possibly see this as a plan to help employment figures is a bit stupid.

Maybe you could earn money by taking on the people then getting rid of them, you don't even need a business.

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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When it was a Tory idea, the government said.

"Gordon Brown's Job Summit at the Science Museum in London will announce plans to pay employers "golden hellos" of up to £2,500 for recruiting jobless people. What does the DWP's Jobs Minister, Tony McNulty, say about the plan?

Press release
Tuesday 11 November 2008
For immediate use

Tories making headlines on the hoof - McNulty

Tony McNulty MP, Labour's Employment Minister, responding to the Tory announcement on unemployment said: "This is desperate stuff from the Tories, who continue to scrabble around trying to find a coherent economic policy.

"There is no way they can get 350,000 new jobs out of these proposals. There are too many restrictions being applied, the incentive is too small and many of these 'new' jobs will simply displace other people seeking work.

"In addition, the Conservatives just cannot pay for this tax cut - it is misleading of Cameron to say he can pay for getting the short-term unemployed back into work by using figures of savings you would make from the long-term unemployed.

"Osborne's judgment is wrong yet again. They are making headlines on the hoof and they will be found out. "They need to make their sums add up - particularly at such a difficult time for the global economy."

ENDS
Editor's notes:
1. Their figures on how many jobs would be created are complete fantasy. The Tory plan assumes that an employer would create a new job for someone unemployed for more than a year for just £2500. The Tories have failed to take account of the displacement of workers who would have gotten jobs anyway. Currently 60% of people come off job seekers allowance within three months - this number would drop dramatically under Conservative proposals as employers would be incentivised to overlook people who have been out of work for 13 weeks or less."

From Guido Fawkes

Mike400

1,026 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Whats the catch, surely I cant go and recruit, say, 10 general labourers, pocket £25,000, give them a weeks wage of say £250 each, sack them and go count the £22500 leftover?

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Mike400 said:
Whats the catch, surely I cant go and recruit, say, 10 general labourers, pocket £25,000, give them a weeks wage of say £250 each, sack them and go count the £22500 leftover?
...And repeat! This is going to be an awful lot of money down the drain for little, if any positives, financially for the tax payer - how many employers are going to milk this dry?

Edited by chris watton on Monday 12th January 12:46

BoRED S2upid

21,035 posts

269 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Isn't the £2500 for retraining the jobless individual?

Trevelyan

729 posts

218 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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I'm more concerned about the implications for those of us currently in work who might lose our jobs. Are we now going to have to budget for being unemployed for more than 6 months so that any potential new employer can cash in? How long before the first question on job application forms becomes "how many months have you been out of work?".