British Mum to Have Two Headed Baby
British Mum to Have Two Headed Baby
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speedy_thrills

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Monday 12th January 2009
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A mum-to-be is preparing to give birth to conjoined twins with two heads but one body.


Parents Lisa Chamberlain and Mike Pedace



Lisa Chamberlain, 25, has ignored doctors' advice to terminate her pregnancy and could instead make medical history if she gives birth to the dicephalus twins.

Layla and Kelsey would be the first British babies born with the rare condition that occurs in just 4% of conjoined twins worldwide.

Lisa and her fiancé Mike Pedace have been told the twins have only a 20% chance of survival.

But Lisa, from Portsmouth, told the Sun newspaper she would not consider an abortion.

"They're conjoined at the upper part of the body so they share one body and they've got two heads," she said.

"Doctors told me that I may never be able to conceive because of my polycystic ovary syndrome and I had practically given up.

"I thought, it's not going to happen now, so I've just got to accept it.

"They'd advised that I should have a termination mainly because it would save me heartache further down the line, but I've told them there's no way I'm going to have a termination and I want to go ahead with my pregnancy.

"I believe everything happens for a reason and there was a reason why God chose me to be their mum and there's absolutely no way I would consider an abortion.

"I'm very happy and proud of my twins and they deserve every chance in life."


If you are not opposed to abortion it would be correct to advise a termination because the prospects of survival are extremely bleak and the prospects for a good quality of life are even bleaker.

Liberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris

Lisa is encouraged by the example of dicephalus twins Abigail and Brittany Hensel who turned 18 last year.

The pair, who live in Minnesota, share all organs from the navel down but have managed to take exams and even driving tests.

It will not be clear which organs Layla and Kelsey will share until Lisa's 20 week scan.

Experts say even if the twins do survive they will suffer from a greater risk of infections and need intensive medical care.

Dr Evan Harris, a Liberal Democrat MPand member of the BMA medical ethics committee, told Sky News it is a sad situation.

"This is a personal decision for the woman concerned, advised by her family and fiancé," he said.

"If you are not opposed to abortion it would be correct to advise a termination because the prospects of survival are extremely bleak and the prospects for a good quality of life are even bleaker."
So what do you think, keep the baby or abort?

I'm reminded of the Hensel case however [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkKWApOAG2g] and wonder if their advice was legal and/or ethical in this instance? I'm normally quite liberal and open minded when it comes to euthanasia etc. but was still suprised by their advice.

largerandrock

652 posts

233 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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I wonder how many kids she can claim for?

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

262 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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I saw those American ones on TV recently, they seem to have a very good quality of life

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Not sure about the real issues here, but at least the child will always have some one to talk to!

speedy_thrills

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Monday 12th January 2009
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largerandrock said:
I wonder how many kids she can claim for?
Legally two people.

Sheets Tabuer

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244 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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If you sleep with someone with two heads is it a threesome?

dwilkie

2,222 posts

215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Those two American twins would make a cracking Apache pilot - since apparently the hardest part of flying the apache is using both eyes independently. I bet they have great spacial awareness too!

But what happens if they both fancy different blokes, or one of them realises she's a lesbian? confused

And would you automatically be having a threesome with two twins if you slept with one of them? Would the other one be cheating on her boyfriend?

So many questions needing answers....

Nobody You Know

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222 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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speedy_thrills said:
largerandrock said:
I wonder how many kids she can claim for?
Legally two people.
That was one of the problems posed about the American twins, especially when it came to things like driving licences. They are two people but drive the car as one. Do they get two licences or one? They could lose one licence and still caryy on driving? Very difficult questions to answer.

speedy_thrills

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Monday 12th January 2009
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Sheets Tabuer said:
If you sleep with someone with two heads is it a threesome?
If you sleep with monozygotic twins are you sleeping with one person or two?

Rox

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224 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Sheets Tabuer said:
If you sleep with someone with two heads is it a threesome?
HA!!
I guess...

What if one head wanted to sleep with you and the other didn't... is that rape?

forza whites

2,555 posts

224 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Think how clever it will be.....

Graham E

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215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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hahaha I love the PP.

It took approximately 3 posts to go from "moral igh ground question" to "shagging twins".

dwilkie

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215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Sooner or later the world will start coming to the PH community when it needs a thinktank to debate something - we think of all the IMPORTANT questions thumbup

speedy_thrills

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Monday 12th January 2009
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Nobody You Know said:
speedy_thrills said:
largerandrock said:
I wonder how many kids she can claim for?
Legally two people.
That was one of the problems posed about the American twins, especially when it came to things like driving licences. They are two people but drive the car as one. Do they get two licences or one? They could lose one licence and still caryy on driving? Very difficult questions to answer.
Not really, if an unlicenced driver reaches over and turns the wheel (or similar) of a car crashing it...same thing smile. I'm sure there have been cases.

They would both need driving licences, having the heart transplant from a pilot doesn't give you the ability to fly.

dwilkie

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215 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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speedy_thrills said:
having the heart transplant from a pilot doesn't give you the ability to fly.
You mean I was ripped off? cry

speedy_thrills

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Monday 12th January 2009
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anonymous said:
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The condition is not genetic smile.

Neil_H

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280 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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So we go from

Story said:
Doctors told me that I may never be able to conceive because of my polycystic ovary syndrome and I had practically given up.

"I thought, it's not going to happen now, so I've just got to accept it.
then to:

Story said:
"I believe everything happens for a reason and there was a reason why God chose me to be their mum and there's absolutely no way I would consider an abortion.
Perhaps you should accept he's doing his best to stop you having kids, you daft cow?

Probably just excited by all the gossip mag stories they'll get paid for.

trumpet600

3,527 posts

260 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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I've known a few two faced people in my time..

Skipppy

1,136 posts

239 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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I thought this was wrong.

In articles I have read on the subject they have been advised to abort the pregnancy IF they are not morally against abortion due to the stress of the birth on the mother and the fact that the child / children would lead and uncomfortable and short life.

She seems to be driving this, the bloke looks like a rabbit in headlights in the interviews i have seen.

Bree

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240 months

Monday 12th January 2009
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Well I for one want to wish them the best of luck. It's going to be tough if the girls survive, and even worse for the parents if they don't.

To carry on with the pregnancy is a very brave decision to make. I'm about the same age as her and don't know if I could cope in such a situation. At the end of the day this young couple are likely to lose both their kids.

I might be having a sense of humour failure here, but I don't see the funny side.