WHY? MRSA
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petrol_penelope

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924 posts

215 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Fabtastic start to 2009!!!

What is happening with the heath and hygeine of our hospitals?????

As it is i had a call from a very close frind last night to let me know a friend of ours had died in hospital of MRSA, now to bring you kind of in the picture, about 7-8years ago a frien of mine was out in a car as a passenger, there was a serious crash which my frien was paralysed from the neck down, he then moved to yorkshire to be closer to his mum and could be under 24hr care, His carer a lovely girl fell in love with him as he did with her, they got married and she had loved and cared for him since, we have all been to see him regulary and we are all so proud of him to have been as strong as his is and has coped so amazingly.

Now in the run up to events about 2weeks ago he was admitted to hospital with a chest infection and a collapsed lung and had regained some strength back to start fighting the chest infection, whilst trying to recover, he got MRSA from the hospital he was in and died yesterday morning. Now the sad thing is that we where all so so close when we where kids and no matter what we always vowed we would remain friends no matter what we do/achive in life, unfortunatly a hand full of us fell out for truely pathetic reasons and this has now brought us all back together again minus one, It could have been anyone of us as we have all had a some point a very bad car crash and it was him who suffered the most but he has been the strongest out of all of us
I am so proud of him and how far he came in life, And i know he will be missed badly. It made me think this morning WE ALL take advantage of what we have and our able bodies.

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Sorry to hear about your friend, penelope. As sad as it is, if it's made you and your other friends closer and/or more appreciative of what yourve got then at least some good has come of it.

bigTee

5,546 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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sorry to hear about that.



Kaelic

2,720 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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What is happening to our hospitals?

Matrons no longer able to run a ward with an iron fist, nurses too bloody lazy to do the most basic of tasks, contract cleaners, management, goverment targets, no money in the NHS.....




Sorry to hear about your mate, and a good thing is that you are all back in contact now.

pimpin gimp

3,319 posts

229 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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If it helps, MRSA is usually brought into hospitals by visitors, it's something that most people carry.

The cleanliness of the hospitals can't always be blamed when for instance, a visitor hugs someone, handles their personal belongings etc. Nothing they can do about that.

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

258 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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petrol_penelope said:
Fabtastic start to 2009!!!

What is happening with the heath and hygeine of our hospitals?????
we let visitors in

and

hospitals have always had infections --- now we expect people not to die in hospitals

fulham911club

2,046 posts

271 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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pimpin gimp said:
If it helps, MRSA is usually brought into hospitals by visitors, it's something that most people carry.

The cleanliness of the hospitals can't always be blamed when for instance, a visitor hugs someone, handles their personal belongings etc. Nothing they can do about that.
Sure - but do they have the same problem with MRSA in France, Italy, Germany?

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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fulham911club said:
pimpin gimp said:
If it helps, MRSA is usually brought into hospitals by visitors, it's something that most people carry.

The cleanliness of the hospitals can't always be blamed when for instance, a visitor hugs someone, handles their personal belongings etc. Nothing they can do about that.
Sure - but do they have the same problem with MRSA in France, Italy, Germany?
MRSA is a global problem AFAIK.

HRG

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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funk odyssey said:
petrol_penelope said:
Fabtastic start to 2009!!!

What is happening with the heath and hygeine of our hospitals?????
we let visitors in

and

hospitals have always had infections --- now we expect people not to die in hospitals
First do no harm...

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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fulham911club said:
pimpin gimp said:
If it helps, MRSA is usually brought into hospitals by visitors, it's something that most people carry.

The cleanliness of the hospitals can't always be blamed when for instance, a visitor hugs someone, handles their personal belongings etc. Nothing they can do about that.
Sure - but do they have the same problem with MRSA in France, Italy, Germany?
Either they have cleaner visitors, or they have MRSA there, but we don't hear about it in the British media. Most likely the second one.

deeps

5,432 posts

270 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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pimpin gimp said:
If it helps, MRSA is usually brought into hospitals by visitors, it's something that most people carry.

The cleanliness of the hospitals can't always be blamed when for instance, a visitor hugs someone, handles their personal belongings etc. Nothing they can do about that.
Of course there's something they can do about it! The fact is, although hospital infections kill far more people than, say, road fatalities, scandalously they are allowed to continue because they are not high priority for this Government.

We don't see the same deaths ocurring in our private hospitals, because they take the common sense necessary step of screening patients before admittance.

So in answer to the OP's "WHY? MRSA"... because the Goverment don't give a damn.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Iain328

14,982 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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My Mrs recently had a very small op as a day care patient (still under general anaesthetic though). They called her in a couple of weeks before & swabbed her for MRSA etc s that they would have time to give her an antibiotic if she was carrying it - which I thought was quite good.

Then the hospital itself seemed to me to be pretty clean and that was good too & everything ran very efficiently.

Then , when the op was done, my son & I went to pick her up and we just walked in from the carpark (could have been carrying anything on our shoes) and were shown right into the day surgery ward to where my Mrs was sitting in a chair. Whilst in there a couple of people were brought in on rolling beds, obviously just having come out of surgery pretty recently, and a couple more were sat up in bed or on chairs - and that bit seemed a bit odd to me I have to say. I would have expected to be kept out of such an area unless I had changed my shoes etc.

MiniMan64

19,339 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Kaelic said:
What is happening to our hospitals?

Matrons no longer able to run a ward with an iron fist, nurses too bloody lazy to do the most basic of tasks, contract cleaners, management, goverment targets, no money in the NHS.....
And it stereotypes like that that are not helping matters.

As someone mentioned a lot of the difficulties now are because hard working nurses are no longer in charge of their own wards.

petrol_penelope

Original Poster:

924 posts

215 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Thank you all so much for your input and support guys.

It was just sad to think that only 7-8years ago he was fully able bodied as you and me are, and some spine less scally drove like a tool caused a major and almost fatal crash which resulted in him paying for it for the rest of his life, the worst bit as well the driver and other passenger ran off from the crash with bad cuts and bruises and left him there to die.

Steamer

14,173 posts

242 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Girl - you are not having a good start to 2009 are you?!!

Hope things start looking up soon.

Sorry to hear your bad news.

captainzep

13,306 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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deeps said:
We don't see the same deaths ocurring in our private hospitals, because they take the common sense necessary step of screening patients before admittance.
That's right.

Most admissions in private hospitals are elective, i.e. you choose to come in for them on a date which suits you. In which case they don't let you in if you screen positive until clear.

Many NHS admissions are unplanned, i.e. emergencies or urgent care where you can't wait. GP calls you an ambulance there and then (mainly in relation to elderly population).

Should we be doing better? -Probably
Is it as simple as the newspaper headlines and some posts here make out? -Of course its fecking not.


Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Steamer said:
Girl - you are not having a good start to 2009 are you?!!.
and who are you? Gok Wan?

Kaelic

2,720 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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MiniMan64 said:
Kaelic said:
What is happening to our hospitals?

Matrons no longer able to run a ward with an iron fist, nurses too bloody lazy to do the most basic of tasks, contract cleaners, management, goverment targets, no money in the NHS.....
And it stereotypes like that that are not helping matters.

As someone mentioned a lot of the difficulties now are because hard working nurses are no longer in charge of their own wards.
Sterotypes? Nah real experience matey and intimate knowledge of the middle management of hospital wards...

Steamer

14,173 posts

242 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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Cara Van Man said:
Steamer said:
Girl - you are not having a good start to 2009 are you?!!.
and who are you? Gok Wan?
Whoever you want me to be

JagLover

46,739 posts

264 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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deeps said:
pimpin gimp said:
If it helps, MRSA is usually brought into hospitals by visitors, it's something that most people carry.

The cleanliness of the hospitals can't always be blamed when for instance, a visitor hugs someone, handles their personal belongings etc. Nothing they can do about that.
Of course there's something they can do about it! The fact is, although hospital infections kill far more people than, say, road fatalities, scandalously they are allowed to continue because they are not high priority for this Government.

We don't see the same deaths ocurring in our private hospitals, because they take the common sense necessary step of screening patients before admittance.

So in answer to the OP's "WHY? MRSA"... because the Goverment don't give a damn.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
We seemed to be headed back to Victorian times, where people used to avoid hospitals at all costs because of high infection rates.