Travelling Economy Class?

[thehawk]

Your nightmares are about to come true. How long before we see the likes of BA doing this sort of thing.

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/airline-to-turn-a3...

[eharding]

thehawk said:

Your nightmares are about to come true. How long before we see the likes of BA doing this sort of thing.

http://www.theage.com.au/travel/airline-to-turn-a3...

If you're that worried about leg-room, I highly recommend this lot:

http://www.flylea.com

The CEO is a charming chap, and a fellow Pitts driver.

[illmonkey]

What happens when one crashes, potentially 840 lives lost!

[V8mate]

illmonkey said:

What happens when one crashes, potentially 840 lives lost!

You're a glass half empty kind of guy, aren't you?

If we never built or did anything because something might happen, we'd never actually do anything.

Some commuter trains carry 1200+ people; what if they crash?

[anonymous-user]

They still have to demonstrate they can get that many people off in time.

[Puggit]

el stovey said:

They still have to demonstrate they can get that many people off in time.

Have you read the article?

[anonymous-user]

Puggit said:

el stovey said:

They still have to demonstrate they can get that many people off in time.

Have you read the article?

HAve now.

wow. 853 got off in 80 seconds.

[steve.c]

I don't get the point of doing it to give cheap seat flights for people, I was looking at flights a few weeks ago from Gatwick to Orlando flying with Virgin, the cost of the flight was approx £80 return, but once taxes had been added the cost I was looking to pay was around £350!

[JRM]

illmonkey said:

What happens when one crashes, potentially 840 lives lost!

Yeah, because ONLY killing 500 odd is fine

[illmonkey]

JRM said:

illmonkey said:

What happens when one crashes, potentially 840 lives lost!

Yeah, because ONLY killing 500 odd is fine

You are getting the wrong end of the stick. Killing 500 is bad, but these are still things that fly, so there still going to crash. Just more people will suffer. Dont put all your eggs in 1 basket .. ? no ?

[andygo]

Look on the bright side.....

Only pikeys and chavs are going to go for a ride in a 1000 seater sardine can, so if it goes down you've got rid of 1000 of the pesky blighters and only lost 1 plane.

See, not so bad after all.

[aclivity]

It's still far short of the record, though

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Solomon

Wiki said:

Operation Solomon airlifted twice as many Ethiopian Jews to Israel as Operation Moses and Operation Joshua combined. The operation set a world record for single-flight passenger load on May 24, 1991 when an El Al 747 carried 1,122 passengers to Israel (1,087 passengers were registered, but dozens of children hid in their mothers' robes). "Planners expected to fill the aircraft with 760 passengers. Because the passengers were so slight, many more were squeezed in. Two babies were born during the flight.

[ultegra]

el stovey said:

Puggit said:

el stovey said:

They still have to demonstrate they can get that many people off in time.

Have you read the article?

HAve now.

wow. 853 got off in 80 seconds.

I saw a documentary a while back about precisely this.

In the simulation, all the passengers stood up when asked to by the crew and made their way to the exits and everyone got out within the allotted time.

The documentary makers knew that this bore no resemblance to human behaviour in a real accident, so they decided to repeat the exercise and inject a little more reality.

Okay, they couldn't set the plane on fire to see who would fry, so this is what they did: a prize of $100 per head was offered to the first 50 people off the plane - I reckon it had 150 bods inside.

When the command GO was given, all hell broke out as the passengers formed a huge rugby scrum to get out and win their prizes. Result? Less than 50 emerged, the remainder were chock-a-block rammed solid in the aisles and exits.

ps: don't flame me for the exact numbers, but this was the sense of what occured.

["Torquemada"]

andygo said:

Only pikeys and chavs are going to go for a ride in a 1000 seater sardine can.

Yep. All the pikeys and chavs go to Reunion for their holidays.

[Munter]

andygo said:

Look on the bright side.....

Only pikeys and chavs are going to go for a ride in a 1000 seater sardine can, so if it goes down you've got rid of 1000 of the pesky blighters and only lost 1 plane.

See, not so bad after all.

I like the idea.

I also dont think it'd be anyworse thant he Economy area of 747s and the like. If they make it any smaller people simply would not fit.

[Nickyboy]

ultegra said:

el stovey said:

Puggit said:

el stovey said:

They still have to demonstrate they can get that many people off in time.

Have you read the article?

HAve now.

wow. 853 got off in 80 seconds.

I saw a documentary a while back about precisely this.

In the simulation, all the passengers stood up when asked to by the crew and made their way to the exits and everyone got out within the allotted time.

The documentary makers knew that this bore no resemblance to human behaviour in a real accident, so they decided to repeat the exercise and inject a little more reality.

Okay, they couldn't set the plane on fire to see who would fry, so this is what they did: a prize of $100 per head was offered to the first 50 people off the plane - I reckon it had 150 bods inside.

When the command GO was given, all hell broke out as the passengers formed a huge rugby scrum to get out and win their prizes. Result? Less than 50 emerged, the remainder were chock-a-block rammed solid in the aisles and exits.

ps: don't flame me for the exact numbers, but this was the sense of what occured.

It doesnt have to be reality, FAA regulations state that all onboard have to be off the plane in under 90 seconds

[thinfourth2]

andygo said:

Look on the bright side.....

Only pikeys and chavs are going to go for a ride in a 1000 seater sardine can, so if it goes down you've got rid of 1000 of the pesky blighters and only lost 1 plane.

See, not so bad after all.

So you are saying only pikeys and chavs travel in cattle class??

[clk hbl]

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andygo said:

Look on the bright side.....

Only pikeys and chavs are going to go for a ride in a 1000 seater sardine can, so if it goes down you've got rid of 1000 of the pesky blighters and only lost 1 plane.

See, not so bad after all.

[anonymous-user]

andygo said:

Only pikeys and chavs are going to go for a ride in a 1000 seater sardine can.

Yep. All the pikeys and chavs go to Reunion for their holidays.

The Frenchies are a bit odd like that, fairly affluent French happily squeeze onto a plane and stay in some pretty ordinary hotels. It doesn't seem such a big deal as it is for the brits. They like the destination and beaches food etc but don't care about stuff like flights and hotel rooms. The flights aren't cheap either, I expect with having nice holiday areas in the south of France perhaps there are a smaller % of them going abroad.

I've been to Reunion, Guadeloupe and Martinique and they were all a bit like that. Other French airlines like Corsair have similar high density seating on their 747s going to Reunion and don't "just carry pikeys and chavs".

Edited by el stovey on Friday 16th January 19:42

[tinman0]

illmonkey said:

JRM said:

illmonkey said:

What happens when one crashes, potentially 840 lives lost!

Yeah, because ONLY killing 500 odd is fine

You are getting the wrong end of the stick. Killing 500 is bad, but these are still things that fly, so there still going to crash. Just more people will suffer. Dont put all your eggs in 1 basket .. ? no ?

But with two flights to accommodate the 840, you are doubling the chances of a crash.