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G'kar

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215 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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So, cigarette advertising is banned.

Sponsorship is banned.

Soon, it seems, display of cigarettes in shops will be banned.

How on earth would you launch a new brand?

I cannot imagine how you'd get any worthwhile exposure.

Any ideas?

MK4 Slowride

10,028 posts

237 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Advertise in other countries that don't appertain to old Nazi ideals?

Garlick

40,601 posts

269 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Sponsor exercise books in schools?

dibbers006

14,640 posts

247 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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G'kar said:
So, cigarette advertising is banned.

Sponsorship is banned.

Soon, it seems, display of cigarettes in shops will be banned.

How on earth would you launch a new brand?

I cannot imagine how you'd get any worthwhile exposure.

Any ideas?
Viral

Hot girls, tight, Branded T-shirts, outside schools. Job Done. laugh

Digga

48,056 posts

312 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Product placement on Nickleodeon?

Steamer

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242 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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At the end of the day - its a drug - the marketing will practically write itself and people will by it anyway.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

299 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Wouldnt launching a new cigarette brand given the general feeling towards smoking in most countries be like launching a mangle or similarly archaic product?

There is no route to market but its a relatively pointless market to enter.

dibbers006

14,640 posts

247 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Plotloss said:
Wouldnt launching a new cigarette brand given the general feeling towards smoking in most countries be like launching a mangle or similarly archaic product?

There is no route to market but its a relatively pointless market to enter.
I have to disagree...

'Developing' countries who have got past the 'New Infrastructure' stage and are branching into careers and disposable income but have yet to reach the Enviro Regulated bks that the 'Developed' Countries are currently entering... are extremely buoyant and growing markets for any kind of cash based vice. Whether it be mobile phones or smokes.

G'kar

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Friday 16th January 2009
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Plotloss said:
Wouldnt launching a new cigarette brand given the general feeling towards smoking in most countries be like launching a mangle or similarly archaic product?

There is no route to market but its a relatively pointless market to enter.
Well, yes. That was my thinking - I was wondering whether there would ever be any more brands and came to the conclusion that there probably wouldn't. The fact you couldn't tell anyone about it being one area of difficulty.

SS HSV

9,646 posts

287 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Market them as mini hand warmers?

dibbers006

14,640 posts

247 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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G'kar said:
Plotloss said:
Wouldnt launching a new cigarette brand given the general feeling towards smoking in most countries be like launching a mangle or similarly archaic product?

There is no route to market but its a relatively pointless market to enter.
Well, yes. That was my thinking - I was wondering whether there would ever be any more brands and came to the conclusion that there probably wouldn't. The fact you couldn't tell anyone about it being one area of difficulty
To add to what I just said... Marketing a New Product is not necessarily a main concern in developing Nation economies/ markets as it is more often cost/ availability that leads purchases.

The sort of places that haven't become Advertising Brand wes like 'the West.'

Take SA for example... the very Developed Areas will be buying the Marlboro/ Benson etc but the poorer areas (who have homes/ jobs etc) but don't have the same exposure to Branding and have limited funds available will purchase the cheapest option and not very often from legitimate wholesale stores/ shops.

As a New Brand you 'only' need to get product available at the right cost to these sort of areas. Not worry about your Brand image. (Well, in the case of cigarettes anyway)

G'kar

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Friday 16th January 2009
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dibbers006 said:
G'kar said:
Plotloss said:
Wouldnt launching a new cigarette brand given the general feeling towards smoking in most countries be like launching a mangle or similarly archaic product?

There is no route to market but its a relatively pointless market to enter.
Well, yes. That was my thinking - I was wondering whether there would ever be any more brands and came to the conclusion that there probably wouldn't. The fact you couldn't tell anyone about it being one area of difficulty
To add to what I just said... Marketing a New Product is not necessarily a main concern in developing Nation economies/ markets as it is more often cost/ availability that leads purchases.

The sort of places that haven't become Advertising Brand wes like 'the West.'

Take SA for example... the very Developed Areas will be buying the Marlboro/ Benson etc but the poorer areas (who have homes/ jobs etc) but don't have the same exposure to Branding and have limited funds available will purchase the cheapest option and not very often from legitimate wholesale stores/ shops.

As a New Brand you 'only' need to get product available at the right cost to these sort of areas. Not worry about your Brand image. (Well, in the case of cigarettes anyway)
I was thinking about the UK primarily.

dibbers006

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247 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Ha... well, ok, ignore that then!

Yeah, launching a Brand of that type in the UK is going to be tough!

See my Viral post biggrin

jeff m

4,066 posts

287 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Risky....but you could slide them into an anti smoking advert.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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I'd set up a mutually agreeable tie up with a company, selling Product X, where there is a symbiotic relationship. We can then market them together; buy Product X, get the fags half price or buy the fags, get the Product X half price.

A tie in with Nicorette would work like a dream for both companies.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Hand free samples out at schools.