Stars and planets
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MaxAndRuby

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6,792 posts

261 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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What's the difference?

My son asked me last night in front of a friend, I said that stars were planets. My friend insisted that planets are not visible to the human eye without magnification. I then asked if they were balls of ignited nuclear fuel, and he stack dumped. We all agreed that we don't know, and I have a disappointed son.

Puggit

49,789 posts

277 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Stars are balls of nuclear fusion reactions, mainly hydrogen and helium, but lots of other stuff too.

Planets are a mixture of heavier elements - orbiting stars. They are not the same!

Edited to add, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are all easily visible to the naked eye.

Edited by Puggit on Tuesday 20th January 15:23

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Isn't our Sun a star?

And can't you see Venus with the naked eye?

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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MaxAndRuby said:
What's the difference?

My son asked me last night in front of a friend, I said that stars were planets. My friend insisted that planets are not visible to the human eye without magnification. I then asked if they were balls of ignited nuclear fuel, and he stack dumped. We all agreed that we don't know, and I have a disappointed son.
Huh? Are you serious? You said stars were planets?

lunarscope

2,901 posts

271 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Are you serious ?


Assuming you are: A main-sequence star is a burning sphere of gas (plasma) and usually produces visible light.
A planet usually orbits a star and doesn't produce light as it is not burning.
Some planets, like Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune and Uranus are composed of all or mainly gas but don't contain enough mass for gravity to collapse and compress the gas enough to trigger ignition. These 'gas giant' planets are essentially failed stars.
You can see planets with the naked eye due to starlight reflected off them. Venus can sometimes be seen clearly and is often mistaken for a very bright star. Mars can also be seen fairly easily and is identified by its faint red colour.

Edited by lunarscope on Tuesday 20th January 15:31

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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You'd be amazed at how many people know so little about the subject. I had to explain to Mrs g that the light coming from the moon was reflected from the sun. She thought it was self luminated.

Puggit

49,789 posts

277 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Galileo said:
You'd be amazed at how many people know so little about the subject. I had to explain to Mrs g that the light coming from the moon was reflected from the sun. She thought it was self luminated.
Don't get on to moons, he's confused enough rofl

over_the_hill

3,329 posts

275 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Puggit said:
Stars are balls of nuclear fusion reactions, mainly hydrogen and helium, but lots of other stuff too.

Planets are a mixture of heavier elements - orbiting stars. They are not the same!

Edited to add, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are all easily visible to the naked eye.

Edited by Puggit on Tuesday 20th January 15:23
V8mate said:
Isn't our Sun a star?

And can't you see Venus with the naked eye?
Yes our sun is a star.

The planets are only visible because of the reflected light from the sun.
Without the sun you would not be able to see them (we would not be here at all but that's incidental).

Andy Mac

73,668 posts

284 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Puggit said:
Galileo said:
You'd be amazed at how many people know so little about the subject. I had to explain to Mrs g that the light coming from the moon was reflected from the sun. She thought it was self luminated.
Don't get on to moons, he's confused enough rofl
Moons... They are glow in the dark suns, right?

petrol_penelope

924 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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I sorry to suprise SOME people on here but even I know that stars are balls of different gasses which are burning and plants are more a solid compound, also if i remember correctly a Nova is when a star has exploded and is no longer able to burn can't remember what a super Nova is though.

stew-S160

8,020 posts

267 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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a girl i used to work with insisted that all the stars we saw at night, we just rocks/meteors etc floating around up there, bounding sunlight back to us.

she was also insistent that our SUN was not a star.

ytrebil

792 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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I understand the difference I think, but planets like Saturn confuse me - or planets which are entirely gas and have no solid state element?

I know we call those shiny things in the sky stars, but I'd imagine a lot of them aren't actually stars at all.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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petrol_penelope said:
..... can't remember what a super Nova is though.
This. Honest.


tonyvid

9,889 posts

272 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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And from an observation point of view, stars will nearly always twinkle and planets don't. Stars are always a point source regardless of magnification(apart from the sun), planets will show as a small disc.

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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Andy Mac said:
Puggit said:
Galileo said:
You'd be amazed at how many people know so little about the subject. I had to explain to Mrs g that the light coming from the moon was reflected from the sun. She thought it was self luminated.
Don't get on to moons, he's confused enough rofl
Moons... They are glow in the dark suns, right?
I think you'll find ALL suns are 'glow in the Dark' hehe

Moons are actually made of cheese and held up by string.

Edited by Galileo on Tuesday 20th January 15:41

petrol_penelope

924 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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anonymous said:
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confused that took me a second rolleyeslaugh

ytrebil

792 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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I'd imagine a super nova is a nova of super proportions.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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It does shock and amaze me that people manage to wend their way through Britain's education system and emerge out the other end not having a clue about some basic facts about the universe. Something is going wrong somewhere.

Stars are essentially balls of gas inside which temperatures and pressures are so high that nuclear fusion reaction are taking place on an ongoing basis. The tremendous light and energy being produced is what makes them shine.

Planets are smaller objects which, so far, seem to only orbit stars (although there is speculation that "loose" planets may wander between stars).
Planets come in a wide variety of shapes and sizes. The planet we are most familiar with is earth, which is esentially rocky with a molten core and a thin atmosphere. Similar planets to eartb are Mars and Venus (usually referred to as "terrestrial" planets), although even these exhibit wide variations in their sizes and atmospheres.

There are also "gas giant" planets, such as Jupiter and Saturn. These are MUCH bigger than the terrestrial planets and the bulk of their mass comes from having thick, dense atmospheres mainly consisting of hydrogen and methane.
Most of the planets in our solar system are visible to the naked eye. Indeed, thenaked eye planets were discovered and named thousands of years before the invention of the telescope. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are all fairly easilly visible. In fact, Venus is particularly bright at the moment and is very, very brilliant in the southern sky each night.

Stars do not emit visible light of their own. We see them because they reflect light from the sun.

Since 1995, over 300 planets have been found orbiting other stars although they have nearly all been found by the effect they have on their parent star rather than through direct observation.

Hope that clarifies matters.

petrol_penelope

924 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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ytrebil said:
I'd imagine a super nova is a nova of super proportions.
I racking my brains here and I think, only THINK its when a number of stars go at the same time thus causing a "black hole" for the universe to be sucked into. will consult my book when I get home