How much income would you need to retire?
How much income would you need to retire?
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Stevenj214

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4,941 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Assuming that you were mortgage free, what is the minimum income you would need per annum to lead an interesting life?

For me, I think a minimum of £10,000pa after tax would enable me to do a lot of what i'd like, travel (basically) a fair bit and odd jobs here and their would supplement it and add variety.


- Edited to amend question slightly.

Edited by Stevenj214 on Friday 23 January 12:17

krallicious

4,312 posts

234 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Define interesting.

Burgmeister

2,206 posts

239 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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£10k! Not a chance, i would need at least double.

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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A grand a week, assuming tax-free.

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Under 65 not a chance - unless you were a couple on that sort of money. Over 65 (when the age related tax allowance and the state pension kicks in) you're a bit better placed as a single person but swanning round the globe at the drop of a hat still needs a lot better income than £10k.

Council Tax will make quite a hole in it for a start.grumpy

dirty boy

14,858 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Not too sure?

To run my house and cars takes say £1000 per month (includes food)

So assuming I still wanted a couple of holidays and enough to 'do things' with family and friends, i'd estimate another £600 per month

£20,000 income would do nicely.

So £1,000,000 in the bank and a nice steady 2.5% pa interest rate would do the trick nicely (split equally between wife and I) I'd still be able to save some too.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

227 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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£100k p/a would just see me scrape by tbh

Stevenj214

Original Poster:

4,941 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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krallicious said:
Define interesting.
Interesting in your own opinion. If pottering around your garden is interesting to you, then that. If interesting to you is adrenaline sports in many different countries, then that.

How much would you need per annum to live an enjoyable life with no necessary work?

Maxmpg

53 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Stevenj214 said:
Assuming that you were mortgage free, how much income would you need per annum to lead an interesting life?
Your question should be "What is the minimum income you would need per annum to lead an interesting life?". I think we can all work out that more money (above minimum) = more opportunity to do interesting things.


Adom

527 posts

268 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
£100k p/a would just see me scrape by tbh
worst "look at me, i earn a st load of cash" post ever.

BigLepton

5,042 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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£150k pa.

Maxmpg

53 posts

236 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Oh, and I'm with the OP on this one. I think £10K p.a. after tax would keep me perfectly happy and content.

Stevenj214

Original Poster:

4,941 posts

257 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Maxmpg said:
Stevenj214 said:
Assuming that you were mortgage free, how much income would you need per annum to lead an interesting life?
Your question should be "What is the minimum income you would need per annum to lead an interesting life?". I think we can all work out that more money (above minimum) = more opportunity to do interesting things.
Good point, original question amended.

Driller

8,310 posts

307 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
£100k p/a would just see me scrape by tbh
Meh, life is so hard isn't it?

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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dirty boy said:
Not too sure?

To run my house and cars takes say £1000 per month (includes food)

So assuming I still wanted a couple of holidays and enough to 'do things' with family and friends, i'd estimate another £600 per month

£20,000 income would do nicely.

So £1,000,000 in the bank and a nice steady 2.5% pa interest rate would do the trick nicely (split equally between wife and I) I'd still be able to save some too.
Yep, but you'd have to be a bit duck's chuff.

You know, doing things like agreeing to go for run outs a day or two after the event hehe

Xaero

4,063 posts

244 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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About £6ka year, or £500 a month.

I'd sell this mortgage free house in a good period (i.e. not in a recession) and move to Asia, don't need a lot of money then to be happy and live a decent life.

rude-boy

22,227 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Maxmpg said:
Oh, and I'm with the OP on this one. I think £10K p.a. after tax would keep me perfectly happy and content.
It would keep me sane, but double it and i would be happy.

Make it up to £40kpa and i think i would be able to do almost everything i want, within reason.

Then again i can't ever see me retiring properly.

dirty boy

14,858 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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£10k is not a lot at all, breakdown annual costs into monthly stuff....

Council tax 130
Gas/Elec 70
Water/Sewerage 60
TV licence 15
Telephone 30
House insurance 25
Food 260 (assuming a couple eating say £60 per week - ignoring the fact a decent BBQ in the summer can be double that)
Car ins 30
Car tax 20
Petrol 80
Servicing 25

TOTAL £745
That's a basic month, putting away a bit for your car service/tax etc

If you lived in my modest 3 bed house, you'd be left with £88 per month, which would dissapear quicker than my erection in the oyster bar would.

shirt

25,377 posts

230 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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no idea, whats the cost of living going to be in 2044?


dirty boy

14,858 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
£100k p/a would just see me scrape by tbh
If that's true, I'd love to know whether you are confident your investments/pensions will allow that.

That's a pretty serious fund you need!

If that was on a rental basis of homes in my area, you'd need a property portfolio approaching £2m