Is global warming a cult?
Is global warming a cult?
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Timsta

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2,779 posts

275 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Serious question time.

What defines a cult and does the Global Warming movement fall into that definition? I don't mean religion, I mean full blown cult.

I see it a bit like Scientology:
  • A belief in something that hasn't been proven as a fact.
  • Creating devices/models that have a desired outcome to prove their faith.
p.s. Can we please not discuss the science on this thread, I'm specifically interested in the ideological aspects.



Swillsy

181 posts

216 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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it is a modern day religion - good demonstration showing how religions were created and evolved

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Cults...

Must

Resist

G_T

16,163 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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I don't think anybody intelligent is desputing global warming surely? The world is getting warmer than it has been for some time.

The only debate is what's causing it...

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

223 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Guam said:
Timsta said:
Serious question time.

What defines a cult and does the Global Warming movement fall into that definition? I don't mean religion, I mean full blown cult.

I see it a bit like Scientology:
  • A belief in something that hasn't been proven as a fact.
  • Creating devices/models that have a desired outcome to prove their faith.
p.s. Can we please not discuss the science on this thread, I'm specifically interested in the ideological aspects.
I think they havent an established Guru yet and you dont get tempted in with free sex (I think) so I dont think its a cult (yet) but I think its definitely got all the hallmarks of a religion smile
Id say Al Gore is probabl their recognised leader.



And yes....it is a cult.....they must be stopped!!!! Before they brainwash and harm more innocent human beings biggrin

FNG

4,733 posts

253 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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I think it's gone beyond being a cult - there are too many people out there who are already brainwashed. I'm not even sure True Believers are in the minority any more.

Also, cults have mental-but-charismatic leaders who followers inexplicably, er, follow.

There is no "face of climate change" and the disciples remarkably believe what Gordon Brown and David Attenborough tell them - so it can't be a religion either. Neither of those is the Messiah.

Shame the IPCC didn't ask David Icke to be their spokesman - we'd have no trouble getting the public to believe it was a fairy story then...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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All those hippy,Soap dodging types who used to protest for CND at Greenham Common have found a new cause to rally around.
This time their ranting and raving is fully supported by Government as it helps it further its own ends.

Is it a religion? Possibly not.

Marxism isn't a religion, Communism isn't a religion but they are political ideologies.




chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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At the moment, it’s used as a one stop shop, or melting pot for the dregs of CND, Greenpeace, capitalist/aspire hating groups of all varieties.
These groups of orks (many of whom are so engrossed in their own hates and prejudices to realise they’re no more than expendable pawns) are lead by very clever people, who cream off the huge profits – and power.

So I think it’s more of a budding religion, and it’s very very depressing.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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G_T said:
I don't think anybody intelligent is desputing global warming surely? The world is getting warmer than it has been for some time.

The only debate is what's causing it...
I always wonder whether we'd be half as bothered if the world was cooling down... scratchchin
It's not like you could tax that!

M3CHA-MONK3Y

6,095 posts

224 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Definetly a cult. Followed by idiots who know nothing about it but jump on the bandwagon, forcing innocent people to buy more expensive 'green' options because they were stupid enough to fall for it in the first place. I'm all for being less wasteful and saving the planet but not at the expense of being ridiculed when I don't abide by it 100%. The 'green' ideology is just about conforming and looking like you give two sts but not having to do anything too different, people that won't donate £2 a month to NSPCC or Oxfam but will gladly spend £6 on a light bulb or £5000 on solar panels. Why? Because it gives you that feeling of self satisfaction and in the long run will save you about 8p, that's after the 10 years of paying the extra off the bill for going green.

Rant done

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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G_T said:
I don't think anybody intelligent is desputing global warming surely? The world is getting warmer than it has been for some time.

The only debate is what's causing it...
you are a little late for the party G_T.

Feel free to post proof of MMGW. no one else can!

plasticpig

12,932 posts

254 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Depends on what your definition of Cult is. It certainly isnt a "particular form or system of religouse worship" but does fit the definition "Devotion or homage to a particular person or thing" but under that definition Pistonheads could be described as a cult.

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
G_T said:
I don't think anybody intelligent is desputing global warming surely? The world is getting warmer than it has been for some time.

The only debate is what's causing it...
you are a little late for the party G_T.

Feel free to post proof of MMGW. no one else can!
Don't be too quick to judge, he is only talking about GW, not MMGW smile


King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
G_T said:
I don't think anybody intelligent is desputing global warming surely? The world is getting warmer than it has been for some time.

The only debate is what's causing it...
you are a little late for the party G_T.

Feel free to post proof of MMGW. no one else can!
Last I heard the average temperature has been dropping for ten years, hence the sudden turnaround to 'Climate Change' in the daily media drivel.

Emsman

7,313 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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The cold war was going to end civilisation
Aids was going to do the same
The millenium bug the same-the only thing that crashed was Q out of the james bond films
SARS
Bird flu was going to be a global pandemic-it killed a swan in norwich

Global warming is the next thing that allows the media to scaremonger
Havent seen much about it on the news since the recession

No dount before long there will be another thing to polish off the whole of civilisation

Dont consider it a cult, more a frenzy of scaremongering to keep people on their toes- worry without foundation.


G_T

16,163 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Hedders said:
odyssey2200 said:
G_T said:
I don't think anybody intelligent is desputing global warming surely? The world is getting warmer than it has been for some time.

The only debate is what's causing it...
you are a little late for the party G_T.

Feel free to post proof of MMGW. no one else can!
Don't be too quick to judge, he is only talking about GW, not MMGW smile
Thank you Hedders.

Look, I've seen shed loads of reports both government and environmental I'm not going to waste my time by listing weather stations reports across the world. I'm not saying it's conclusive but it's certainly more likely than unlikely that the global temperature is rising. I've even read the scientific "evidence" put forward the government some years ago. I wonder if you've taken the time odyssey2200?

I'm not even speculating at what's causing it!

More intelligent people than me have tried and failed. I'm just saying the world is almost certainly getting warmer relative to a few years ago. Personally I think whether it's a problem or not remains to be seen and I do not believe CO2 emmissions could possibly be involved.




odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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It's been cooling !

turbobloke

117,125 posts

289 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
It's been cooling !
yes

Not quoting science or data as per the OP request - the global climate has cooled for the last eight years.

If you follow the rules of the greenies and take advantage of single high temperature years, as they did at the time, the overall cooling is now for ten years.

Likely to continue, so the ideologues will be working overtime to keep the myth alive.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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GW is a politically promoted, left wing ideology to futher socio-economic change and the redistribution of wealth.

This sits perfectly with the Loony hippys, who are happy to faom atthe mouth while not only promoting the governments line but actually demanding thatthey do more.

Sadly these people have little more to do than to make as many headlines and make loud noises in the media, who are happy to go along with it!

G_T

16,163 posts

219 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
It's been cooling !
I don't know what you're basing that on and if your source is credible I'm happy to be proven wrong! But the United Nations, NASA and dozens of Universities are in disagreement with your comment.

So I stand by my statement, "It is more likely than unlikely the temperature has risen recently".

I really have no personal bias in this! biggrin

Edit: With respect to the OPs request if someone can send me some credible proof that global warming is a myth I would like to see it as I'm genuinely interested?

Edited by G_T on Friday 23 January 14:07