Anyone else terrible at Maths?
Anyone else terrible at Maths?
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Pinhead Toss

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26 posts

213 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Just read the MENSA question thread, and now my head is hurting. That is how bad my maths is.

Anyone else here suffer from 'numbers dyslexia'? It is so bad i am even thinking of going to a nightschool course to sort this out. I can get away with everyday addition, subtraction, multiplication and division but anything more than that and i completely fail to grasp the concept.

My maths education fundamentally stopped in the third year of Comprehensive school where i went off the rails a touch and although capable of using the written word i can remember having difficulty with numbers prior to that. I look at a problem or question and it just doesn't sink in or register. I cannot comprehend how the question wants me to manipulate the terms.
I know my times tables and basic stuff as i stated earlier, but i am now faced with having to look on the internet to be able to help my eleven year old daughter with her homework.

I don't know maybe i am just as thick as sh*t and should accept it?
Is there a syndrome where people are unable to comprehend maths?
(nice if there was because then i could use this as an excuse)



Edited by Pinhead Toss on Thursday 29th January 02:22

RupertTheFridge

899 posts

220 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Not necessary dyslexia (for god sake, why spell it that way), it could be dyspraxia (similar, but it's about how you process information, not being thick as the preverbial)!!!

Sheaver1

93 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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My maffs was me worst subjict at skool - fank goodnesh me spellin wos awlrite!

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GingerWizard

4,721 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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nope (early morning gloat...)

Don1

16,764 posts

237 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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I took my maths GCSE twice - passed it at the sixth attempt.... That's how bad my maths is! (Numerical dyslexia).

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Pinhead Toss said:
My maths education fundamentally stopped in the third year of Comprehensive school where i went off the rails a touch
That's your problem right there.

You are almost certainly not "thick" at maths. You just haven't practiced it enough. If you can multiplication/division/addition/subtraction and know your times-tables then most basic maths should be a doddle. Algebra is not a great deal harder, TBH. The problem is more to do with understanding how they write the questions and what answer they are after...and to "get" that you need to practice.

If you want to help your kids with their maths homework get yourself a couple of GCSE Maths revision books or similar and work your way through the question and answer sections until you get a feel for how the questions are worded and how to translate that into a formula that you can solve.

By the way - if you know your times-tables then that is more than me - I could never be bothered to learn them, I just work out the answer any time I need it and by now I'm fast at doing that...and I did maths (for Computing) at degree level!

DBSV8

5,958 posts

267 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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You do understand this simple equation ???



It was the only useful bit of maths I learnt in secondary

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

221 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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I'm not very good. I am fine at arithmetic but not so good at algebra, and have no clue about matrices or calculus. This is a bit of a problem given what I do frown

speedy_thrills

7,902 posts

272 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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The only way I could ever learn mathematics was using applied problems, no idea why but my memmory works better with a practical association. Doing lots of problems really does help.

You do tend to find applications in real life as well once you start seriously studying mathematics smile.

Hub

7,122 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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DangerousMike said:
I'm not very good. I am fine at arithmetic but not so good at algebra, and have no clue about matrices or calculus. This is a bit of a problem given what I do frown
Oh god, calculus - still a mystery to me... WHY is it necessary? overcomplicates things, and is all theoretical. I speak from embarking on a (joint honours) economics degree without maths A level! I had to try and teach myself to catch up, but didn't get it at all!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Hub said:
DangerousMike said:
I'm not very good. I am fine at arithmetic but not so good at algebra, and have no clue about matrices or calculus. This is a bit of a problem given what I do frown
Oh god, calculus - still a mystery to me... WHY is it necessary? overcomplicates things, and is all theoretical. I speak from embarking on a (joint honours) economics degree without maths A level! I had to try and teach myself to catch up, but didn't get it at all!
People seem to confuse "Maths" with "Arithmetic" all the time. I was always fine with Arithmetic - I should be, I'm an accountant. But higher Maths, especially Calculus and Binomial Theorem and stuff like that seemed to leave be struggling.
I now understand much better WHY calculus is used. It's by no means "all theoretical". It is essentially about plotting paths and curves of non-straight lines and is essential when computing ballistic trajectories, orbits and solving any other problems involving non-linear equations. If only this had been explained to me as a teenager I might have been better motivated to get my head around what it was all about. Who knows, I could now be an engineer - or an astronaut!

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 29th January 09:01

King Herald

23,501 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Pinhead Toss said:
Just read the MENSA question thread, and now my head is hurting. That is how bad my maths is........

........I don't know maybe i am just as thick as sh*t and should accept it?
Is there a syndrome where people are unable to comprehend maths?
(nice if there was because then i could use this as an excuse)
I never understood trigonometry until I was at college! S=O/H, C=A/H, T=O/A. It simply did not register what it was about, meant nothing.

And I still don't understand anything else about maths. frown

NDA

25,538 posts

254 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Pinhead Toss said:
Anyone else here suffer from 'numbers dyslexia'? It is so bad i am even thinking of going to a nightschool course to sort this out. I can get away with everyday addition, subtraction, multiplication and division but anything more than that and i completely fail to grasp the concept.

I don't know maybe i am just as thick as sh*t and should accept it?
Is there a syndrome where people are unable to comprehend maths?
(nice if there was because then i could use this as an excuse)
I seriously doubt you're thick. I have a complete brain freeze with all mathematics - so much so that I had to count on my fingers under the kitchen table the other evening when checking my 7 year old sons maths homework.

But..... I ran a public company in my 30's and have done reasonably well (I'm not painted orange by the way).

So I wouldn't worry too much about having a mental shut-down when faced with numbers - just learn to double, triple check everything with a calculator!

fido

18,827 posts

284 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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I'm pretty terrible at maths. I was working on a project to value Collaterised Debt Obligations year before last, and it involved alot of minimum/maximum functions and difficult integration using those functions. In fact i couldn't understand the point of it, or what the numbers coming out of it meant. Then i got an e-mail telling me my job was at risk, and a few days later i got booted out of the office. It was all rather distressing.

Landlord

12,689 posts

286 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Pinhead Toss said:
'numbers dyslexia'
Dyscalculia.

NDA

25,538 posts

254 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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fido said:
I'm pretty terrible at maths. I was working on a project to value Collaterised Debt Obligations year before last, and it involved alot of minimum/maximum functions and difficult integration using those functions. In fact i couldn't understand the point of it, or what the numbers coming out of it meant. Then i got an e-mail telling me my job was at risk, and a few days later i got booted out of the office. It was all rather distressing.
laugh


Landlord

12,689 posts

286 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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fido said:
I'm pretty terrible at maths. I was working on a project to value Collaterised Debt Obligations year before last, and it involved alot of minimum/maximum functions and difficult integration using those functions. In fact i couldn't understand the point of it, or what the numbers coming out of it meant. Then i got an e-mail telling me my job was at risk, and a few days later i got booted out of the office. It was all rather distressing.
Who did you work for? I used to do the very same for Deutsche Bank. Didn't get sacked though, fortunately!! wink

fatboy b

9,665 posts

245 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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All I know is that there are 3 types of people in the world. Those who can add-up, and those who can't.

scorp

8,783 posts

258 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Eric Mc said:
People seem to confuse "Maths" with "Arithmetic" all the time. I was always fine with Arithmetic - I should be, I'm an accountant. But higher Maths, especially Calculus and Binomial Theorem and stuff like that seemed to leave be struggling.
I now understand much better WHY calculus is used. It's by no means "all theoretical". It is essentially about plotting paths and curves of non-straight lines and is essential when computing ballistic trajectories, orbits and solving any other problems involving non-linear equations. If only this had been explained to me as a teenager I might have been better motivated to get my head around what it was all about. Who knows, I could now be an engineer - or an astronaut!

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 29th January 09:01
You raise a good point, at school I rarely paid much attention mainly because of the way the topics were taught, you could never see any practical application and everything seemed like a punitive chore. Had I have known that years later I would have been relying on the bulk of it for more fun stuff I would have paid more attention instead of having to re-teach myself maths on the job.

okgo

42,072 posts

227 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Yes, I used to be very good at maths.. but fast forward five years, I am useless and wouldn't be able to function without a calculator. Quite depressing really.