Will recession lead to mass strikes/Protests(Riots?) here?
Will recession lead to mass strikes/Protests(Riots?) here?
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amir_j

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3,579 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Been watching the various protests around EU, e.g. Tractors blocking 2 of the 3 lanes of the main Greek motorways, French strike which resulted in some violence, the oil refineries strike in UK etc. Not to mention the days of violence which forced out the Icelandic Government.

So what do you think will happen here considering every 'expert' body is convinced we will have it the worst?

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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No the British will go to the pub and complain over the bar.

supersingle

3,205 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Bring it on! tank

redfaceff to bed with cocoa:

Mr Fenix

863 posts

234 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Brits will moan and whinge like fk over a few decaff lattes or pub drinks and go back to their ste home, ste life and continue to put up with the ste successive governments have forced upon them.

Good on the other countries for kicking off, Brits aren't too civilised to do the same, they're just meek and lazy (for the most part).

jjones

4,488 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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the british people are very apethetic, but when the breaking point is finally reached i think there will be a very, very big snap.

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

237 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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If the £ collapses completely then almost certainly there will be trouble.

We are able to import food, energy and other goods into the UK for one simple reason. We pay for it.

If the £ is worthless then we cannot pay for it.

This country cannot produce sufficient food to feed the existing population, even with food rationing. We can argue about the size of the shortfall, but quite simply some people will starve.

Now, when people are starving, some will resort to force to get a share.

Either food must come, or the population will have to fall to a sustainable level. The experience of the Second World War was that we can feed about 15 Million people on home grown foodstuffs.

We would be without imported fuel or spares for agricultural machines. There are insufficient shire horses to cope and it would take years to breed enough. Most farmers don’t remember how farm with horses.

Unlike our grandfathers, most modern student’s knowledge of gardening is limited to Hydroponics.

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Everyone is apathetic when they have food on their tables.

I believe there will be just enough social unrest for the government to bring in some stringent new freedom of movement restrictions on us, but I tend to think the worst.


Edited by Hedders on Friday 30th January 01:24

supersingle

3,205 posts

248 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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jjones said:
the british people are very apethetic, but when the breaking point is finally reached i think there will be a very, very big snap.
This is the truth. There are lots of imbalances building up between productive and parasitic people within the uk. The more apathetic the British people, the bigger the the eruption when it finally comes.

:Need more beans:

jkennyd

3,142 posts

228 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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jjones said:
the british people are very apethetic, but when the breaking point is finally reached i think there will be a very, very big snap.
Has a good point but it's a long way off yet. We justt dont complain enough although in saying that we are getting better at it

Fittster

20,120 posts

242 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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We lost an empire without complaint, I don't think a recession will get people off their sofas.

amir_j

Original Poster:

3,579 posts

230 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Mr Fenix said:
Brits will moan and whinge like fk over a few decaff lattes or pub drinks and go back to their ste home, ste life and continue to put up with the ste successive governments have forced upon them.

Good on the other countries for kicking off, Brits aren't too civilised to do the same, they're just meek and lazy (for the most part).
They showed video of the Poll Tax protests so never know. Bearing in mind UK society has been going downhill with higher levels of chav violence could get crazy.

MonkeyBusiness

4,240 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Uncle Fester said:
If the £ collapses completely then almost certainly there will be trouble.
It already has. The £ is bust/bankrupt

It really annoys me we have no exports which we, at one point were the best in the world - ship building, textiles, steel, etc.

I'm making my sandwich board tomorrow and parading down the high street.

Police State

4,364 posts

249 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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amir_j said:
Been watching the various protests around EU, e.g. Tractors blocking 2 of the 3 lanes of the main Greek motorways, French strike which resulted in some violence, the oil refineries strike in UK etc. Not to mention the days of violence which forced out the Icelandic Government.

So what do you think will happen here considering every 'expert' body is convinced we will have it the worst?
Why do you think this government have been very busy over their term in creating all kinds of laws and legislation designed to supress civil unrest, and heavily funding and politicising the various forces at their disposal?...


amir_j

Original Poster:

3,579 posts

230 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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Police State said:
amir_j said:
Been watching the various protests around EU, e.g. Tractors blocking 2 of the 3 lanes of the main Greek motorways, French strike which resulted in some violence, the oil refineries strike in UK etc. Not to mention the days of violence which forced out the Icelandic Government.

So what do you think will happen here considering every 'expert' body is convinced we will have it the worst?
Why do you think this government have been very busy over their term in creating all kinds of laws and legislation designed to supress civil unrest, and heavily funding and politicising the various forces at their disposal?...
But we will have all the criminals let off on suspended sentences on our side, plus the crazy 'stab you in a second' teens wink

Mobile Chicane

21,982 posts

241 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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The French are revolting.

Yes, aren't they?

ShadownINja

79,992 posts

311 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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We'll show the government by signing online petitions. See how it stopped the war, reduced petrol prices and got Guantanamo closed? That's real power that is. Even Chuck Norris can't stop the power of an e-petition.

Hedders

24,460 posts

276 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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ShadownINja said:
We'll show the government by signing online petitions. See how it stopped the war, reduced petrol prices and got Guantanamo closed? That's real power that is. Even Chuck Norris can't stop the power of an e-petition.
yeah, thats the spirit, just wait til we all have internet!! They will be sorry they messed with us...

AJS-

15,366 posts

265 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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We just don't have the weather for mass civil disobedience. We'd give it a shot then after a couple of days it would rain and we'd all go home, stick on the TV and say look at those bloody hooligans, string 'em up I say.

I'd love to see something like the poll tax riots go on for a whole summer and bring down the government, but I don't hold out much hope.

Poledriver

29,576 posts

223 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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If it gets much worse there will be a VERY strong backlash in UK. The British people will come out in force and make their presence known. Is P&P ready for the increased traffic?

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Friday 30th January 2009
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jjones said:
the british people are very apethetic, but when the breaking point is finally reached i think there will be a very, very big snap.
Agreed. The French protest in numbers all the time. They're expert at not having to get hurt when they protest, but it's a bit like them crying wolf. They often don't get what they want in a hurry. Like today!

When the Brits protest spontaneously and "en-mass", it's nasty. Bricks, petrol bombs, knives into the police horses, trampling, riot shields, blood, rubber bullets, the whole shebang. A bit like America, but on a smaller scale, and perhaps without the mass looting.

Perhaps in France it happens, but there are just so many (like today) that you don't get chance to see it.

I remember the poll tax riots in Trafalgar Square and although I never saw the miners, I've seen the footage.

Poll Tax Riots

<Pics removed because of FortuneCity's low bandwidth>

For what it's worth there was a UAF or some such activist standing in our highstreet campaigning against the BNP in recent local elections. The BNP member came last with 93 votes to the winners (Liberal) 500 or so, but still they're around.



Edited by dilbert on Friday 30th January 01:41


Edited by dilbert on Friday 30th January 01:55